Bible vs. Science

Not really much of a distinction there to be made.

Yeah, belief/psychosis....same thing....


wotta piece'a work

We can ask rex, "How do you know this"? if God is all loving what is he gonna do about the JEws and Muslims and animists and Buddhists etc etc.

It's useless, Rex will just pull some hooey out of a hat and parade it around like someone who got duped buying a fake picasso.

Priceless ! ! !

Hollis Ray, a blast from the Abuzz past, may, in fact, have been more coherent than Rex.

Straw man there, snood - typing very slowly here ... do try to follow along;

Some religionists - notably but not exclusively religionists of fundamentalist persuasion, Christian and otherwise - express their apologetics in such manner as to display their particular religious belief set as fully meeting the qualifications of delusional psychosis. Not all, but many - and those many are well represented here. If it walks like a duck ...

Hollis was more consistant, thoroughly steeped in the Christian religion including a lot of church attendance. You can't accept parts of the religion and reject others. I realize it's being done all the time which is what makes it even more ludicrous.

ya think?
I went and visited Hollis RAys web site and found it full of his thoughts for the millenium. What a piece of work he was.

At least rex answers you , Hollis Ray would just keep gargling and never interact with anyone , and some of the questions were asked with great sincerity. (Mine werent , but that was me then, Ive since learned that , when an argument is based upon merely slinging verses over the parapet, were in for a very long and boring interlude.) So, its best to just stand back and let em blow out.

I realize that read as some kind of endorsement. Not intended. Yes, RR answers but the answers are often more absurd than the statements that prompted the question.

My job is not to judge , my job is just to have fun . Calling RR, Hollis Ray Jr, was meant neither as a compliment nor an endorsement. My attempt at humor, failed as it apparently was, was merely to call attention to the fact that the "last of the recondite spewing fools was Hollis Ray Mathis" Now we seem to be grading them both. ARE YOU SHITTING ME? .
Im sure that RR has one of those RadioShak Bible verse trackers where you plop in a KWIC or a phrase , and the gizmo spits out every Biblical verse using that word.

49.95 at your nearest Radio Shak, you too can sound like Hollis Ray on the accordion.

WOW! Gone for a few days and the accumulated erudition has become a veritable landslide of learning. I can't keep up. I'm from New Jersey. Help!

....and here he is for all you sinners !

http://sermons.ontheinter.net/

Thanks fresco, I was beginning to regret not having saved the abuzz references to HR.

Boy, looking over his"hierarchichal list" , hes been a busy sumbitch .
ANother random thought. HR's career options could have opened up had his middle name been Wayne.

If you want to converse intelligently with me please start reading and studying my posts.
I have taught this TWO GOD thing several times here on A2K

Then who is "the God (Gr. theos) of this world"? DO YOU HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT?

I can say without one shred of doubt that BOTH you and Frank are, WRONG!

You are conversing with someone who has studied this Bible for over twenty years almost every day.

I can tell you confidently there are TWO GODS in the Bible...

You have not been READING my posts...

The God of this world and the one true God.

The FALSE God and the ONE TRUE God.

Now you and Frank have already made up your minds as to which God was "killing babies" and hunting down adulterers and homos with rocks.

So why reconsider anything, TRUTH maybe?

Jesus Christ revealed the One true God AND the god of this world.

NOW if Jesus had to reveal the DIFFERENCE in the gospel administration and you are stuck in the OT adminstration logic BEFORE it was revealed then it is no wonder why you do NOT KNOW the one true God...

The gift of the holy spirit POWER that came to all believers on the day of Pentecost came WITHIN the spirit. One POWER of the spirit was the manifestation to "DISCERN SPIRITS".

Without discerning of spirits the OT "gods" were MOST often perceived as ONE...

Just as a child hides the spanking paddle thinking it is the paddle that does the discipline not the hand the guides the paddle.

So as the law was just a stick of wood that is roughly hewn to discipline humans until the spirit guide fully came.

Jesus Christ was under the law (but he saw the law more compassionately)we are not under this law this is why we can see the two Gods clearly.

Now you can go on in your confusion for the rest of your life or you can give the words of Jesus and the countless mentions of TWO GODS posing as deities throughout the Bible some careful IMPARTIAL consideration.

2Co 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Comment:
Are you saying the ONE True God BLINDED minds from hearing the GLORIOUS Gospel of Christ, his own DEAR son. Ridiculous!

THINK ABOUT IT AGAIN...

So you perceive the mixed OT Gods as one and don't believe the NT revelation of the True God revealed through his son who was the "image" of the one true God?

Sounds like you want a baby killer for a God so you can reject God more easily...

THERE ARE TWO GODS IN THE BIBLE!!!

Adam gave DOMINION over the earth to the devil! Dominion, the DOM part is from kingDOM...

The devil offered Jesus the kingDOMs of the world.

Jesus did not tell the devil he did not own the power of them...

KINGDOMS of the world? That would make the Devil a God to us?

We see how the devil was all chummy buddy buddy with God in the book of Job.?

Yet in the new testament clearly teaches "God has no conversation with evil".

2Co 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

Comment:
Your boat is sinking, hopefully Frank is bailing water like hell!

So did the OT lie about who God was? NO, NO, NO!

The OT PROPERLY portrayed people and the way they perceived "God". When they are NOT born of spirit WITHIN but only have spirit UPON them "conditionally" (law) then OT is how one sees God.

I can't explain it any clearer than that.

You would take the word of theists over the actual written word of God?

"THE GOD (theos) OF THIS WORLD"... Have your INFALLIBLE theists explain that one.

Ah, the stench of arrogant hubris . . . why should anyone consent to be "taught" anything by you, especially in view of the nonsensical character of your babbling?

By the by, Rex, how do you know it's the actual written word of God?

Do you recognize the handwriting?

1Co 2:13
Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

Another one who apparently does not STUDY my posts...

I had to STUDY the words of my teachers until I understood them... SO DO YOU.

Actually Rex is right about Jehovah and Jesus not being one and the same. And his is correct in saying Satan is the god of this world.

There are many in the bible called gods. Some even worship their bellies.

Just because Rex sometimes seems to be bailing with a sieve does not mean the boat is not filling with water.

NO I DON'T.

You are not my teacher--i'd commit myself to a maison des alienés before i'd consent to being taught anything by so severely confused an individual as you.