Frank Apisa wrote:
As I said, Rex...please continue to post these rants...because they do much, much more to show how convoluted, twisted, and tortured your logic is in your attempts to make the Bible say other than what it says.
To suppose two gods in order for you to be right is hilarious.
Two Gods, that is what THE WORD says. Not just me.
I did not just rant on with my "own" logic but I backed up what I believe with clear simple "scripture".
Where is your scripture to contradict anything I have proposed?
Your whole premise rests on six scriptures.
"Almost" everything else written in the new testament contradicts your premise.
I am not saying this to show you you are wrong, I am showing this to show you the Bible is teaching CLEARLY a new covenant and that Jesus Christ REVEALS the one true "God".
1Jo 1:5
This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
Comment:
Once this "grace" of God is explained then you cannot read the NT without finding it everywhere.
This "GRACE" has for the most part been lost in today's religion. This is the ideology we are at war with. And you are not part of the solution you are equally part of the conundrum.
Eph 2:5
Even when we were
dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by
grace ye are saved;)
Comment:
What works can a
dead man do to please God Frank?
Ro 8:8
So then they that are in the flesh cannot
please God.
Eph 2:8
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that
not of yourselves: it is the
gift of God:
Comment:
Frank, you think the way you do in light of the
numerous scriptures that reveal the actual TRUTH?
I submit, maybe you don't want to KNOW God.
You are "guessing" Frank
I love you as a brother in Christ Frank and I would (if this is all true) hate for you to suffer damnation.
In the NEW covenant there is only one "unforgivable"
sin..
That is to deny the one true God!
When you deny God you deny new birth/holy spiritual "seed" and seed is permanent and eternal. What spiritual seed do you have Frank. Everyone receives one or the other in the course of their lifetime. If they are too young to decide they are sanctified by their parents belief ot that of the "State" (liberty).
1Co 12:3
Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
Comment: You cannot corrupt the spirit within. You cannot manifest spirit without it present within. Manifestation of the spirit is a "witness" of it's presence within. This witness is proof of one's eternal life.
When your earthly father put earthly seed in you, he put it in you for life. As long as you live he will always be your biological father.
When God puts spiritual seed into you he "creates" it in you for eternal life.
This seed is a "gift" and is not worked for or a wage.
So, a new born believer of God has no more "Christian character" after the new birth than before they were born of spiritual seed. But they now have a means of "power" if they choose to learn to operate and manifest it.
Peace with God