Frank Apisa wrote:
Rex...I defy you to show anything in your supposed refutation of the passage I cited that actually shows the god of the Bible does not consider homosexual acts to be an abomination worthy of death.
Where.
You might just as well have cited "The meek shall inherit the Earth" ....because you have not actually refuted the passage...you have merely avoided it.
The god of the Bible clearly states that homosexual activity is an abomination.
Wake the fuk up!
Stop pretending that you have refuted the passage.
What you have done...very clearly to everyone but you...is to twist logic in an attempt to make the passage seem to say something other than what it says.
That was my point. Thank you for once again showing that my point was correct.
Yes, I will continue to use the passage...because it allows me to allow you to show I am correct in this matter.
Frank, for the 80 millionth time "There are
two Gods of the Bible.
Could you repeat that to yourself three times? There are
two Gods of the Bible, There are
two Gods of the Bible, There are
two Gods of the Bible.
2Co 4:4
In whom the
god [theos] of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Comment:
Which God is yours the God of law OR the God of liberty?
1Co 1:20
Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom
of this world?
Comment:
You are obsessed by the God of law and you act as if I should be.
But I'm not.
Anything that exalts itself against the knowledge of Christ is not from the TRUE GOD.
Moses was deficient spiritually, this is why he saw things legally and WITHOUT LIBERTY.
Frank if Moses was such a perfect man "of the God of the Bible" why is he not permitted to enter the promised land? YOU HAVE NO ANSWER FOR THAT EITHER.
Your mind refuses to distinguish and discern spiritually the one true God.
Why? So without ANY God you can sin without impunity or conscience. You intentions are less that honerable.
You figure the only way to liberty is to toss the whole thing.
WRONG! What of the holy spirit and eternity?
Mr 3:29
But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
Comment:
You are oblivious to issues like WHY THERE IS A NEW TESTAMENT if the old testament was just all hunky dory. Your interpretation has NO answer for that.
Heb 8:7
For if that first
covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
Comment:
THE GOD OF THE BIBLE IS
TWO GODS....
You think your interpretation of the OT is the accepted one and you are closed to any other interpretation of the scriptures.
You think I am twisting the meaning and I am just seeing the scope of the word. I see the complete story.
I see man (Adam) who sinned and gave dominion to the devil I see this dominion being MIXED with the God of the OT. I see the one true God revealed in the New Testament...
Ro 6:9
Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more
dominion over him.
Comment:
This is why God will ask for sacrifice of animals and then LATER tells people he never required these sacrifices and they were an abomination to him. The prophets could not discern spirits. (Just as you cannot or will not discern spirits)
1Co 12:10
To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another
discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
Comment:
Christianity is not confessing our sin for salvation
It is confessing the saviour from sin.
Ro 10:9
That if thou shalt
confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Comment:
NONE of these principles you understand.
You look at the old testament God and SEE "the God of the Bible" instead of a result of the Gods of the Bible.
Look at Job, why was God and the devil so chummy buddies? YOU HAVE NO ANSWER FOR THIS! Because you do not understand TWO GODS.
You fall back on
erroneous theological interpretations. YOU have a twisted meaning of the Bible due to not studying it YOURSELF. You remain fixated on what others have taught you.
You are COMPLETELY oblivious to THE SPIRIT and what it means to us.
1Co 2:13
Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
Comment:
Your OT logic is that everything is God because Moses said it was, Well Moses "thought" it was God, just as YOU DO (then you reject this God)...
The Bible is not incorrect about Moses. You cannot understand that the Bible is showing that Moses WAS fallible. The Bible is not wrong... Moses was wrong. God WARNED Moses that the LAW would be a burden (several times). For some reason this cannot click in your head. Moses saw the world legally because he was not complete spiritually.
Col 2:10
And ye are
complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
Comment:
If Moses was so perfect spiritually than why did Jesus need to come "save" the world? YOU HAVE NO ANSWER FOR THIS EITHER FRANK!
Because the devil had an advantage over God.
It was the power given to the devil by Adam.
Adam gave the devil "dominion" over the earth. Dominion was Adams to Give because of free will and because dominion over the earth was Adams. Dominion is a KINGDOM... the kingdoms of the world. These kingdoms are where laws are made. The devil offered Jesus the kingdoms of the world if he would bow down and worship him. How could the devil make such a claim if he did not have the POWER of the kingdoms (dominion) of the world? You are arguing the Bible with someone who knows what it means.
Lu 16:16
The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the
kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it
Comment:
YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THE BIBLE
Let alone the ONE true God of the Bible OR the false God Frank...
Your blindness is the same blindness that Moses suffered from.
LAW Versus LIBERTY
They cannot both occupy the same mind.
Ro 8:3
For what the
law could not do, in that
it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned
sin in the flesh:
Comment:
You magnify the God of the OT and you consider the NT God silly... Your motives Frank are not wholesome.
So really the problem is not with the Gods of the Bible but your rank self worshiping arrogance.
This is not twisted logic this is the logic of the BIBLE.
Prove to me the LORD of MOSES was the ONE true God of the NT!
How about some scriptures to back that up? You have NONE!
You don't like this logic so you twist it to fit your hatred of God.
The LORD of the OT was not always what he seemed... You should be proud (sarcasm) to be among those who do not understand this.
Well you are hating the right God, and you are hating the wrong God.
Would I trade being gay for your ignorance of God? Not for all the cheese in Wisconsin.
The law was the schoolmaster until the spirit. Where there is liberty there can be law. Without law there is no sin.
Ga 3:24
Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Ga 3:25
But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Ro 3:20
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in
his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Comment:
All the laws are contained in one law... TO LOVE GOD...
Ro 10:4
For Christ is the
end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
Comment:
You hate the GOD of the Bible Frank, so you cannot even follow one law (to love God) let alone all the rest having to do with what "liberty" represents.
How can the OT God and NT God be the same if God "never changes".
Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD,
I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
Comment:
Either God changed or God was never in the LAW. God has always been in the spirit. The true will of Jehovah was obscured by the overlapping of usurped human dominion.
Do not hack and slash my post and answer to only the few statements that do not tip your hand...
I will repost the parts you cut out and ask you why you did not respond to them.
I am getting tired of your idiocy
Why don't you, "wake the fuk up"!
Eph 5:14
Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
Acts 7:30-41
30 And when forty years were expired, there appeared to him in the wilderness of mount Sina
an angel of the Lord in a flame of fire in a bush. 31 When Moses saw it, he wondered at the sight: and as he drew near to behold it, the voice of the Lord came unto him,
32 Saying, I am the God of thy fathers, the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. Then Moses trembled, and durst not behold.
Comment:
Now what ANGEL was in the burning flame of fire Frank?
How about if you start reading this book for a change.
Abraham Isaac Jacob all saw God the same way?
The DEVIL almost convinced Abraham to slay his son... Had Abraham done that Jesus Christ would never have been born!
Do you really think God would play with our future like that?
The LORD (DEVIL) caused the "great flood" and the LORD (True GOD)saved Noah.
The LORD Giveth (True GOD) and th LORD (DEVIL false God) taketh away...
Ro 1:17
For therein is the righteousness of God
revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Ga 3:23
But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be
revealed.
Comment:
I could go on and on proving my point with scriptures...
You have no CLEAR scrptures to prove WHO the God of the Bible is Frank... Only speculation built upon speculation and error built upon error.
You are a follower of followers Frank.
Let's see, if you don't have an understanding of something then it's logical that you may not have the correct perception of it. That's not a true statement?
