Could you tell me something about HIPPIES?

Sample Stoned Conversation
------ ------ ------------

VIRGINIA: Are you hungry?
ANDY: No. (Long reflective pause.)
Wait a minute. Did you mean am
I hungry for food, or am I
hungry in the abstract, like
hungry for knowledge or
adventure?
VIRGINIA: What are you talking about?
ANDY: You asked if I were hungry.
VIRGINIA: Did I?
ANDY: Yes.
VIRGINIA: Well, are you?
ANDY: Am I what?

From a 'child's garden of grass'

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Hippies are alive and well on the North Coast of New South Wales Australia Cool

. Personaly I am a grey green survivalist scared out of my wits by the prospect of Kenedy pulling the trigger. Is it safe to come out yet?
alex

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Not yet Alex. George W Bush is in office. It may never be safe to come out.

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Dave? Dave's not here.

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Tino wrote:

What an excellent essay by Asherman!

I just love people who take the time to answer a question on the threads properly instead of throwing off a silly one-liner

I must admit I was too young to be a Hippy and that I didn't really "get" Howl when I read it.

The nearest I came to understanding it was when I read a remark that it would have been one of the finest American poems of the 20th Century were it not for the fact that its premise [stated in the opening line : "I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness"] was false.

However there is an excellent biography of Ginsberg by Barry Miles [the so-called "English Beat"] that may help those of us who have trouble with AGs poetry. This is very readable. Infact I couldn't put it down!

Gregory Corso read my tarot for me.
Only time it was ever read, I think.

Has anyone mentioned that "Hippy" derives from people doing drugs, lying on their sides... on their hips, and expostulating?

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NickFun wrote:

Not yet Alex. George W Bush is in office. It may never be safe to come out.

Not if you're a terrorist.

More power to ya, W, at least in that respect.

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ralpheb wrote:

i consider myself everything. I was sorta kinda around. Too young to participate, but old enough to remember all the silly stuff they did. I mean hey not every one was spiting on vets and calling them baby killers. YYou go hippies!
Ok that was my sarcastic side. I'm sorry. AH, no I'm not. Hippies were the F4's of the civilian world. Put enough junk in them they might do something useful.
mostly they sat around, got stoned and thought they were important when they did nothing productive to or for the country.
Now they sit around thinking about the stuff they did(if they can remember) and think they changed the world.
There that should get a rise out of the hippies

Thank you for reminding me of this:

"My candle burns at both ends;
It will not last the night;
But ah, my foes, and oh, my friends
It gives a lovely light!"

~ Edna St. Vincent Millay

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You know what, Gelis, I LOVE it!!!!

I had such a good time.

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Tino wrote:

Has anyone mentioned that "Hippy" derives from people doing drugs, lying on their sides... on their hips, and expostulating?

That is what's known as 'folk etymology,' a spurious claim of derivation which won't stand up to analysis. It's one of those things that makes you say, "Yeah, that sounds right," but turns out to be not right at all, in this case nonsense. The noun 'hippy' derives from the adjective 'hip', itself a corruption of the earlier 'hep' (as in 'hepcats'), meaning one au courant with the latest trends and having an insider's knowledge.

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David Crosby Almost Cut My Hair Lyrics
David Crosby: Vocal, Electric Guitar
Chris Robinson: Vocal
Jeff Pevar: Electric Lead Guitar
James 'Hutch' Hutchinson: Bass
Michael Finnigan: Organ
Jody Cortez: Drums

Instrumental intro. (Electric Guitar and Organ)
Almost cut my hair
Happened just the other day
It's gettin' kind of long
I could've said it was in my way

But I didn't and I wonder why
I feel like letting my freak flag fly
And I feel like I owe it, yeah ... to someone, yeah

Well, must be because I had the flu this Christmas
Oh, yeah and I'm not feeling up to par
Oh, I tell you baby this increases my paranoia
Yeah, like looking in my mirror and seeing a police car

Well, well, I'm not, I'm not giving in an inch to fear
Well, you know I've promised myself this year
Well, I feel oh, like I owe it, I owe, I owe it to someone
Oh ... like I owe it to someone

Instrumental (Electric Guitar)
Oh, yes when I get myself together
Yeah, you can find me in that sunny southern weather, yeah

I'm goin' to find a space inside a laugh, yes
Separate the wheat from some chaff
Oh, and I feel ...
Like I owe it, yeah ... to someone

Ending (Electric Guitars)
© 1970 Stay Straight Music (BMI)

Cool

Let your freak flag fly .....

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Fascinating thread and first prize to Asherman for his insights and clear writing.

I actually feel that there is a wider resonance of much of the Beat and Hippy eras - last night I was in a local bar in Prague listening (then adding beats and whistles) to a jam session which, in conjuction with a fragrantly smoky atmosphere :wink: , gave a clear impression of a former era...without being outdated. Very "hip"!

KP

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Im moving to Prague. Is it difficult speaking Pragish?

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timberlandko wrote:

More from Mr. Natural;

Anything that gets ya off is dope.
Anything that don't, ain't.
With that understood, in this whole wide world, there's only two kinds of dope;
Dope ya got,
and
Dope ya ain't.

I'd forgotten that one... oh how wise and wonderful.

btw, anyone seen the checkered demon? He was holding my 2nd wife for ransom in 1975, but I got high and forgot about her.

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Asherman wrote:

The only reason grass remains illegal is to keep me from being perpetually stoned. It has its uses, but, as in all things, in moderation. I'd far rather live in a Marijuana World than Martini World ... I think it would be a less dangerous place, and less suffering would result. Oh well ... no one ever listens to me anyway.

Asherman and the Bear in perfect 100% agreement... who'd of thought?

I practically never get stoned anymore... but when I retire I plan to revisit that place of my youth regularly... with a few sentimental journeys to a couple other rooms as well..... :wink:

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farmerman wrote:

Im moving to Prague. Is it difficult speaking Pragish?

Unfortunatly Czech is quite hard to learn but most people speak English

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Just found this thread. Asherman is amazing.

Have to say that hippies were not a monolithic group. They actually were in the minority as well.

Some people concentrated on drugs, some on music, some on politics, others on the intellectual thing.

A great many hippies were entrepreneurs, running small bookstores, jewelry shops, designing clothes, etc.

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It is evident that Plain Ol Me has been eating too much tainted grass.

Definition of HIPPIE

<Hippias>

hip·pie also hip·py (hp) KEY

NOUN:
pl. hip·pies
A person who opposes and rejects many of the conventional standards and customs of society, especially one who advocates extreme liberalism in sociopolitical attitudes and lifestyles.

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EXTREME LIBERALISM IS INDEED THE KEY!!!

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When you put BernardR into google images, this picture shows up

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