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Miller
 
Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 03:22 pm
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 03:29 pm
Re: Sans Makeup, S'il Vous Plaît
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When she had an upper tooth straightened last year, the daily newspaper Libération labeled it an un-French act. "The French people's favorite Socialist is now endowed with an American smile," Libération wrote.

Ha ha! The world, my friends, is a weird and funny place.. ;-)
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 03:31 pm
I read that in the paper today, interesting article. As someone who's never really worn makeup, I liked it a lot. I know that there's a huge difference between actually not wearing makeup and appearing not to, though... I once had a professional do my makeup for a photo in a magazine and wow was she good. I didn't look like I had makeup on per se, I just looked like I was several years younger and had just come inside from a nice walk on a breezy spring day. Laughing If i had the time/ money/ inclination I'd like to learn how to do that, respect to those who know how.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 03:34 pm
(I laughed at that too, nimh. Laughing)

(Although I also saw a large picture of her in the Sunday NYT mag and my first thought was holy crap, she looks good for 52...)
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 03:37 pm
However, in Canada ...

Quote:
Straight men eager to polish their image

Cosmetic companies find a fresh market catering to the male workaday dandy


DEIRDRE KELLY

Not long ago, the client for Revlon's Age-Defying Makeup or Rimmel's Celebrity Bash (a nail polish noted for its spectacular reds) was well defined: a woman between the age of 20 and 35 who worked in an office and looked forward to looking her best for a night on the town.

That profile is changing, and radically. Take Elliott Chun, a Toronto-based public-relations consultant who regularly wears Revlon's complexion-smoothing foundation to the office. When asked why, he gives the same answer a woman might: "To look good and feel good about myself."

The 25-year-old self-professed "hard-core heterosexual" says wearing foundation "seems to go a long way. You get a lot of compliments."

Then there's Roz Weston, a 31-year-old reporter with Global Television.
"I find it relaxing. I sit on the deck with a cocktail listening to AC/DC and paint my toes bright red. Celebrity Bash is my favourite," he says.

"There are no benefits except that women are always wanting to paint them for me. Which I never allow. That's my thing."

Almost 300 years after men in the court of Louis XIV wore powdered wigs and rouged their cheeks, makeup for men appears to be making a comeback.

"Men are today more health-conscious and image-conscious than before," says Dr. Chaim Goldberg, surgeon and director of the Goldberg Centre for Vision Correction and Cosmetic Surgery, who says more and more of the clients he sees are wearing some makeup.

"They're working out and they're feeling better. They want makeup not to alter their appearance the way women traditionally use it. They want it to enhance what they've got, their masculinity. They want to create the illusion of being healthy and looking younger."

Shane Beekhoo, a financial planner and cosmetics wearer in London, Ont., agrees.

"More and more, men are doing it, that's for sure, men who are straight. It might sound superficial. But men are caring about their appearance more than before."

Men and makeup has always been seen, even by gay men, as the final taboo.

But now, says Dave Lackie, editor of trade bible Cosmetics Magazine, it's more like the final frontier -- an untapped market for the $1.8-billion-a-year Canadian cosmetics industry.

Within the last month, Canadian mass-market and specialty department stores have been inundated with new lines catering to the new breed of workaday dandy: Men Expert by L'Oréal, or Boss Skin, a skincare line for men by Hugo Boss, which also includes a male fragrance. Even Gillette, makers of men's razors, has just added an aftershave to its product line.

As well, this month, Jean Paul Gaultier, one of the pioneers of the male makeup trend, relaunched in select Sears and The Bay stores across Canada, its Tout Beau Tout Propre collection of eyeliner, bronzing powder and coloured lip balm for men.

Along with the clear nail polish that has been available to men since 2003, there is now a chocolate shade. The line's new lip gloss is now a brighter shade of red.

It's all about pushing the envelope, using a hint of flamboyance. That's because men are even more ready for their close-up, according to Carine Rizk, marketing manager for BPI International, distributors of Jean Paul Gaultier in Canada.

"Launching Beauty for Men was considered provocative and even outrageous by some. Nevertheless, it worked, because it was the right moment sociologically and men were ready to change the way they dealt with their appearance."

The reason, says Michael King -- publisher of the Canadian men's magazine Sir -- is that men feel they need to keep up with women who are making increasing strides in society.

"All bets are off on what a man should or shouldn't do," says the 40-year-old Mr. King, who admits to wearing a tickle of bronzer on a regular basis to enhance his looks.

Ben Coler is a former makeup artist whose on-line male cosmetics company, Studio5ive.com, has 10,000 clients on his database from Canada, Mexico and his native United States. He says the objective is for the makeup to be undetectable. He says that men are terrified of getting it wrong, of looking like a drag queen.

Mr. Coler created a colour palette that uses what nature has already given men: the blue-grey of the beard and inner eye socket, the ruddiness of the weathered cheek, the brown at the brow line. This way, the makeup defines and shades instead of adding bursts of unnatural colour.

"Men want their skin to look healthier. They want to hide dark circles, blemishes and problem areas. Men want to use these products to make them look more handsome and masculine. It eliminates for them the stigma of wearing makeup in the first place."

Farid Hassani, a 37-year-old designer, says he regularly borrows his wife's eyeliner to give himself a lift.

"It makes me feel good, it makes me feel different," Mr. Hassani says.

"I'm not gay but I don't want to be perceived as the typical heterosexual male," he says.

"Makeup gives me an edge."

Globe and Mail
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eoe
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 04:01 pm
I saw that article on European women and makeup also and as much as I can appreciate the idea, I do like a polished look, especially on celebs, and thought that Juliet Binoche could have used a little undereye concealer...and maybe a little shadow and a touch of blush...did she have on lipstick at least?
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 04:29 pm
Hhmmmmm Juliette Binoche ... she's pretty.. if hers is the French low-key-makeup look, more power to it!

Are we talking about, like, this?

http://www.verbeat.com.br/blogs/miltonribeiro/binoche_ult.jpg

Or more like, this?

http://www.nndb.com/people/970/000025895/binoche.jpg

Either way fine with me!

Or like these...

WAY too big a picture to post

Youll have to copy/paste the URL of this one into a new window..

(And she's 42!)
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Chai
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 04:53 pm
Personally, I don't give a fat rat's ass what anyone, French or otherwise think about how I wear my makeup.

I guess that says what my opinion is.
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Mame
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 06:28 pm
I'm with you, Chai... some of the French ladies are chic, some are not..... some would perhaps look 'better' with make up... but I personally don't care who wears it, who doesn't, who's had surgery, who hasn't... doesn't affect my life at all....

and no one is going to tell me what to do Laughing


Vive la choisse (I hope that's the right word/conjugation, but if not, you get the gist)
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Chai
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 07:04 pm
And you know what else....? OK, I'll tell ya....

What is it that as soon as somthing comes out of Italy or Paris all of a sudden it's all tres chic?

Every freakin' time you turn around there's an advertisement telling you that something was made in or used by Italians, the French, someone from Sweden and so on?

Well la de da for them.

If something I like was made in France, terrific.

If it was made in Dubuque, Ohio and does what I want it to, then there ya go.
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Mame
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 08:22 pm
LOL... and hey, I've BOUGHT Italian shoes and they're not all that, if ya know what I mean Smile

Okay, what else can we dis? lol
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eoe
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 08:32 pm
My sister-in-law just returned from Paris with four pairs of beautiful, unique, you'll-never-see-them-here-in-the-States shoes. She loves them.

Y'all just hatin' on the Europeans!
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roger
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 08:42 pm
Heh! If you'll never see them here, there just might be a reason.
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eoe
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 09:23 pm
Don't know what you mean but I saw the shoes when she came to visit. They were exquisite.
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Swimpy
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 09:36 pm
Chai Tea wrote:


If it was made in Dubuque, Ohio and does what I want it to, then there ya go.


Where's THAT?
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Mame
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 10:10 pm
I remember buying a pack of Gitanes after a French meal and they tasted so ... right... but the next day, they were camel dung.
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roger
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 10:19 pm
Iowa, Swimpy, Iowa. Iowa, Ohio, Podunk - who knows the difference?
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flushd
 
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Reply Fri 26 May, 2006 01:47 am
I'm all for the less-is-more look. Hey, if what I normally do comes into fashion, I'd be happy. But, like Soz said: no make-up is not the same as no make-up look. That can be a lot of work. Especially attempting to have perfect looking pores!

I do dislike seeing overly madeup faces though. It's not to my taste, is all. Not to mention - it's hard on your pores. Laughing
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Ceili
 
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Reply Fri 26 May, 2006 02:00 am
The only men I've ever seen wear makeup in Canada are Drag Queens or Rock Star wannabes. The mullet is still fairly popular as is the ubiquitous ball cap. Any guy wearing rouge or nail polish would probably be beaten silly. Sad but true.
As for the ladies, some wear too much others not enough. C'est la vie. To each his own I guess... Me, I generally only wear mascara and a little blistex as a gloss, lipstick and eyeliner is for the really special occasions. I don't have the time to get gussied up too frequently, as I suspect most Canuck women would say as well.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Fri 26 May, 2006 02:02 am
I feel much better now, having learned my life-long habit of not employing cosmetics has become fashionable. This being trendy stuff is all so new to me - it may take me a while to get used to it.
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