I didn't say that Rush provided aid and comfort to enemies. However, being in the mass media, he should be more careful in his statements, and not falsely impugn the NYT, a great paper.
Libby did provide aid and comfort to our enemies in outing Plame. In my opinion, this is treason, for which he should be executed.
RexRed wrote:NOW we have six bombings in Bombay India!
Perhaps more WIRE TAPS would have revealed this plot before it murdered so many people?
How would wire taps on calls from the US to other countries have revealed a plot that was probably planned and executed completely in India?
Quote:The left are NOT helping to protect our country.
India isn't the US. It is on the other side of the world. But if you want to make a connection then the argument could be made that Bush is not making the US safer since so many trains were bombed.
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WE NEED TO VOTE THE LEFT OUT THIS NEXT ELECTION!
A nice fair election so they can see that every vote counted was truly against them and their obstructionist policies..
I am all for fair and free elections. I am for a paper trail so manual recounts can be used to confirm the election. I am also for recounts when requested by a candidate.
Advocate wrote:I didn't say that Rush provided aid and comfort to enemies. However, being in the mass media, he should be more careful in his statements, and not falsely impugn the NYT, a great paper.
Libby did provide aid and comfort to our enemies in outing Plame. In my opinion, this is treason, for which he should be executed.
pachelbel said...
Quote:the public has every right to know what is going on.
So,the public has a right to know who is on the CIA payroll.
Whats the problem?
Thank you , Rex Red. I took the liberty of replicating the fine link to Human Events which clearly show left wing liberals like Mr. Parados and Mr.Pachelbel that there is NO INDICTMENT FOR O U T I N G A CIA AGENT COMING FROM THE PROSECUTOR.
Why? There was no outing!!!
Novak wrote:
For nearly the entire time of his investigation, Fitzgerald knew -- independent of me -- the identity of the sources I used in my column of July 14, 2003. A federal investigation was triggered when I reported that former Ambassador Joseph Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame Wilson, was employed by the CIA and helped initiate his 2002 mission to Niger. That Fitzgerald did not indict any of these sources may indicate his conclusion that none of them violated the Intelligence Identities Protection Act.
Do you get that, Mr. Parados and Mr. Pachelbel--Mr. Fitzgerald's conclusion that none of them VIOLATED THE INTELLIGENCE IDENTITIES PROTECTION ACT."
Rex Red- I am sure that Mr. Parados and Mr. Pachelbel will be oblvious tothis and will continue to assert that there was an OUTING of a CIA agent.
There is little you can do with closed minds, Rex Red!!
That is NOVAK's SUPPOSITION about what Fitzgerald MAY (did you notice that MAY?) have been thinking. It is not "Fitzgerald's conclusion".
Well, then Username, we will just have to wait until the Libby Trial is completed. You really don't think that an incorruptable prosecutor like FItzgerald would allow the Outing of a CIA agent to go unpunished, Do you?
We shall see, and when Fitzgerald reports, I will be happy to remind you that there has been no charge that a CIA agent was outed.
You must have misread the indictment, Mr. Username. I found nothing in it charging that Mr. Libby had outed a CIA agent.
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The praise for Fitzgerald focuses on the charges he did not bring. He did not prosecute Bush administration officials or journalists under the rarely invoked law he was originally appointed to investigate--the Intelligence Identities Protection Act, which forbids the knowing disclosure of the identity of a covert government agent. He did not invoke a broader provision that makes it a crime to disclose classified information--a statute that, if it were regularly enforced, would criminalize what most national security reporters do every day. As John Tierney of the Times, an eloquent critic of what he correctly calls "Nadagate," acknowledges, Fitzgerald also "didn't indict anyone for seemingly minor discrepancies in testimony." Instead, his indictment makes a relatively strong case that Libby lied repeatedly before the grand jury about when and how he first learned that Joseph Wilson, a critic of the administration's case for the Iraq war, was married to Valerie Plame, a CIA agent. Showing prosecutorial experience that Starr lacked, Fitzgerald at least brought a false statements indictment that is easy to understand.
Novak says that he was given Plame's ID, but not her name, by someone who later said that this was inadvertent. Who is this person? I think it was probably Cheney. This reminds me of the guy who said he didn't mean to pull the trigger that killed the bank teller.
Is there anyone on the right who is not a sleazeball?
Advocate wrote:Novak says that he was given Plame's ID, but not her name, by someone who later said that this was inadvertent. Who is this person? I think it was probably Cheney. This reminds me of the guy who said he didn't mean to pull the trigger that killed the bank teller.
Is there anyone on the right who is not a sleazeball?
So,since you THINK it was Cheney,that automatically means it was,is that what you are saying?
Advocate wrote:Is there anyone on the right who is not a sleazeball?
Is there anyone in the world more full of hyperbole than Advocate?
I am sure that Advocate does not think that the Federal Prosecutor, Fitzgerald is a dupe. Everyone on both sides of the political aisle calls him uncorruptable and a straight arrow.
Therefore, I am sure that Advcate will look forward to the INDICTMENT of the person who OUTED Plame. Unless, in the fullness of time and judicial findings, it is found ,as Novak has said, NO ONE OUTED PLAME.
We shall see what tomorrow's news and editorials say about whether or not Plame was OUTED!!!
The interest of many Republicans to prosecute members of the media who publish official secrets seems a bit incongruous in light of their unconcern with the disclosure by the White House of a CIA agent's identification. I cannot recall that a single member of the GOP was outraged by the outing of Valerie Plame.
But Valerie Plame was NOT outed. If Advocate is able to find a quote from any Democratic Senator or House member who says that plame WAS OUTED, I would like to see if.
The special prosecutor, Fitzgerald, has not said that anyone was being prosecuted for OUTING any CIA agent.
If Advocate has such material about Fitzgerald prosecuting someone for OUTING Plame, I would like to see it!
When it is acceptable to prosecute journalists for publishing information about possible illegal acts by our government, we are no longer a democratic republic.
It's a shame there aree even some who find that acceptable.
Bernie evidently feels that the media has not given away state secrets because members of the media have not been prosecuted.
Interestingly, illegal government projects are not classifiable.
I am afraid that you missed my question, Mr. Advocate. If you are unable to reply ,I understand--
But Valerie Plame was NOT outed. If Advocate is able to find a quote from any Democratic Senator or House member who says that plame WAS OUTED, I would like to see if.
The special prosecutor, Fitzgerald, has not said that anyone was being prosecuted for OUTING any CIA agent.
If Advocate has such material about Fitzgerald prosecuting someone for OUTING Plame, I would like to see it!