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Bill O'Reilly caught lyin' again.

 
 
Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 14 May, 2006 01:31 pm
Yeah, it never works, and it's fun to rub his nose in it.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 14 May, 2006 03:50 pm
DrewDad wrote:
Laughing Laughing Laughing

Is right... even McGentrix can spot a projection!



My world, and Weltenschaung, just collapsed.
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BernardR
 
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Reply Mon 15 May, 2006 03:20 am
Evidence for the charges? Didn't anyone read Roxxxane's post?

I find it ludicrous that the left wing, who, I am told, are the fiercest warriors in the battle to safeguard the First Amendment--"Congress shall make no law..abridging the freedom of speech" are so eager to muzzle Mr. O'Reilly. If his message is false, there is no better way to erase it than to put it out into the marketplace to compete with other "better" ideas.

Then Mr.O'Reilly's message will die on its own!!!
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Mon 15 May, 2006 10:56 am
O"Reilly calls Franken a failure, but aren't his books best sellers? (Yes, they are.)

Anyhow, Reilly is entitled to say what he wants, simple-minded fear-mongering though it be. The ACLU as the most dangerous organization in the US? How cool! I never thought of myself as dangerous before...
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 15 May, 2006 10:58 am
Damn those ACLU punk for protecting our civil rights!
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Tue 16 May, 2006 08:51 am
Here is a scoop. No BOR lies have been cited for almost a week!
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BernardR
 
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Reply Tue 16 May, 2006 05:03 pm
The ACLU? Yes, what an interesting organization. Even though some on the right would impugn it and say it should be shut down, no one in power would try to pass any laws to shut it down. The most that would happen is that people like Robert Bork would attempt to condemn it, but the ACLU will continue as will Bill O'Reilly, even though people from the Liberal Side condemn O"Reilly and people from the conservative side condemn the ACLU.

There is much to criticize the ACLU about, but the ACLU appears to be adamant about its drive to protect "the first amendment" and "freedom of speech. The ACLU is so radical that it contends that nude dancing is constitutionally protected free speech and it opposed metal detectors in airports as an intrusion upon individual autonomy.

I am not certain that I would go so far as to try to defend nude dancing as constitutionally protected free speech and would view metal detectors as intruding on individual autonomy.

But it is comforting that the ACLU is admant about individual autonomy. Why, I am sure they would even defend the free speech rights of Bill O'Reilly. But, as I have been told by a liberal friend, no such defense is necessary since,as my friend says,O"Reilly is wrong so often that people will begin to turn him off, he will lose his audience and the "problem" will be solved.

It may be so, but I don't think so.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Tue 16 May, 2006 05:29 pm
D'artagnan wrote:
O"Reilly calls Franken a failure, but aren't his books best sellers? (Yes, they are.)

Anyhow, Reilly is entitled to say what he wants, simple-minded fear-mongering though it be. The ACLU as the most dangerous organization in the US? How cool! I never thought of myself as dangerous before...


So,anyone with a best selling book cannot be classified as a failure,is that correct?
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Tue 16 May, 2006 11:12 pm
comma space
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 16 May, 2006 11:14 pm
mysteryman wrote:
D'artagnan wrote:
O"Reilly calls Franken a failure, but aren't his books best sellers? (Yes, they are.)

Anyhow, Reilly is entitled to say what he wants, simple-minded fear-mongering though it be. The ACLU as the most dangerous organization in the US? How cool! I never thought of myself as dangerous before...


So,anyone with a best selling book cannot be classified as a failure,is that correct?

Certainly not a failure as a writer... and having succeeded at something, one cannot classify such a person as "a failure."
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BernardR
 
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Reply Tue 16 May, 2006 11:15 pm
No, Mysteryman, as I am sure you know, even people who have written a best selling book can be labelled a failure.

Even Al Franken who is bombing out on Air America!
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BernardR
 
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Reply Tue 16 May, 2006 11:19 pm
But, I must grudgingly admit, even though he has the right of free speech( subject of course to the strictures of the FCC) O'Reilly can become annoying. Lately, he has allowed hate-filled people to critique Polygamy. What O'Reilly doesn't understand is that those people are following the dictates of their religion. What kind of a problem is created if a man and several women want to form a family? Where is it written in stone that a family must be composed of just one woman and a man?

We must celebrate love and compassion. People love in different ways.
There is nothing wrong with love and committment!
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parados
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 07:48 am
This is Franken's first job in radio. He debuted on March 31, 2004. Franken has now been on the air longer than Rush was in his first radio job or Rush's second radio job or his third. Does that mean Rush is a failure since Franken has started out stronger than Rush on radio? Franken has MORE best selling books than Rush. Franken didn't ghost write his.

OReilly only has 2 best selling books as well. Fewer than Franken. Franken got an emmy long before OReilly did. I would bet that Franken has more name recognition than OReilly does. (movies, TV shows on national networks, visits to talk shows etc.)

If Franken is a failure it says something by comparison about OReilly.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 08:01 am
parados wrote:
This is Franken's first job in radio. He debuted on March 31, 2004. Franken has now been on the air longer than Rush was in his first radio job or Rush's second radio job or his third. Does that mean Rush is a failure since Franken has started out stronger than Rush on radio? Franken has MORE best selling books than Rush. Franken didn't ghost write his.

OReilly only has 2 best selling books as well. Fewer than Franken. Franken got an emmy long before OReilly did. I would bet that Franken has more name recognition than OReilly does. (movies, TV shows on national networks, visits to talk shows etc.)

If Franken is a failure it says something by comparison about OReilly.


Franken, and most other radio personalities owe their success to people like Rush and Howard Stern who revolutionized talk radio. They put in the years of work and dedication so others could ride their coattails.

Franken is hardly a pioneer, rather he is filling a niche.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 04:32 pm
parados wrote:
This is Franken's first job in radio. He debuted on March 31, 2004. Franken has now been on the air longer than Rush was in his first radio job or Rush's second radio job or his third. Does that mean Rush is a failure since Franken has started out stronger than Rush on radio? Franken has MORE best selling books than Rush. Franken didn't ghost write his.

OReilly only has 2 best selling books as well. Fewer than Franken. Franken got an emmy long before OReilly did. I would bet that Franken has more name recognition than OReilly does. (movies, TV shows on national networks, visits to talk shows etc.)

If Franken is a failure it says something by comparison about OReilly.


I gotta ask,what proof do you have that Rush "ghostwrote" his 2 books?
I have seen that claim before,but have yet to see anyone prove that.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 05:51 pm
McGentrix wrote:
parados wrote:
This is Franken's first job in radio. He debuted on March 31, 2004. Franken has now been on the air longer than Rush was in his first radio job or Rush's second radio job or his third. Does that mean Rush is a failure since Franken has started out stronger than Rush on radio? Franken has MORE best selling books than Rush. Franken didn't ghost write his.

OReilly only has 2 best selling books as well. Fewer than Franken. Franken got an emmy long before OReilly did. I would bet that Franken has more name recognition than OReilly does. (movies, TV shows on national networks, visits to talk shows etc.)

If Franken is a failure it says something by comparison about OReilly.


Franken, and most other radio personalities owe their success to people like Rush and Howard Stern who revolutionized talk radio. They put in the years of work and dedication so others could ride their coattails.

Franken is hardly a pioneer, rather he is filling a niche.


Oh bullshit, that like saying Rush owes his success to Joe Pine. Rush owes his success to the legion of ignoramuses who want to hear someone who echoes their backward view of the world.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 05:57 pm
http://pssht.com/biography/rush_limbaugh.html

Quote:
ยป Political commentator, radio host, college drop-out, alleged
closet homosexual, and, as recently revealed, synthetic heroin
drug addict, Rush Hudson Limbaugh III is probably the best
known neocon personality in American radio.

Born in Cape Girardeau, MO, in 1951, Limbaugh spent many of
his formative years pursuing a career in radio.

After using his pilonidal cyst - a congenital birth defect - to
avoid military service in the Vietnam War, Limbaugh briefly
worked for radio stations in Pittsburgh, PA and Kansas City,
MO. Fired from both jobs, he worked as a wiener salesman for
the KC Royals baseball franchise, eventually slithering back into
the radio business.

In 1971 Limbaugh attended Southeastern Missouri University,
where, according to reports, he had a brief but heated affair
with Elliot Sanders. So gay is Limbaugh, guarantees Sanders,
that, "none of his marriages was ever consummated."

Many of Limbaugh's fans staunchly deny the man's alleged
homosexuality, and Limbaugh himself says the rumors are
politically motivated lies. However, one is forced to doubt
Limbaugh, who has a history of denying and balking at rumors
that are later revealed to be true. His pilonidal cyst, his
pseudonymous career in Pittsburgh radio, and his addiction to
Oxycontin are all facts which Limbaugh initially denied or
concealed.

After more failed stints with Missouri radio stations Limbaugh
moved to Sacramento, CA, where he met and became "friends"
with Norm Woodruff, a flamboyant, openly gay man with a
great deal of influence in the local radio scene. Woodruff, who
mentored Limbaugh in the ways of affluence and elitism (traits
Rush mocks today), would later died of AIDS.

Through his ties to Woodruff Limbaugh was given Morton
Downey, Jr.'s spot on KFBK News Talk 1530 a.m. Within
twelve months Limbaugh had become the most popular radio
personality in Sacramento. In 1988 he signed on with EFM
Media Management, working from New York City.

For a short while Limbaugh plateaued, until the success and
enormous popularity of a Democratic president provided him
with a reason to whine.

The popularity and charisma of President Clinton enabled
Limbaugh's hate-filled show to appeal to millions of bitter
American conservatives. Limbaugh's unique combination of
prevarication and histrionics provided a sense of unity for
otherwise incompatible demographics, such as Klansmen and
Wall Street stock brokers.




For years Limbaugh fooled his audiences into
believing his whining was something much more noble.


By the mid-90's Limbaugh's promoters had co-opted his show
to enough nationwide syndicates to claim Limbaugh was the
"most popular radio personality" in the country. Technically this
was false. However, the free handout out of Limbaugh's show
to any station that wanted it resulted in Limbaugh being the
most listened-to man on a.m. radio.

Inspired by Clinton-induced vitriol, Limbaugh paid a ghostwriter
to author for him See, I Told You So (1992), Nanny Nanny,
Boo Boo (1993), and I'm Rubber. You're Glue. Whatever You
Say Bounces off Me and Sticks to You (1994).

After miserably failing on television, Limbaugh spiraled into
depression, eventually becoming addicted to pain pills
prescribed to him for his pilonidal cyst (a.k.a. "Butt Boil"). For
nearly eight years Limbaugh abused Hydrocodone, a synthetic,
stronger version of heroin.

In effect, Limbaugh spent nearly a decade stoned off his
bleeding backside, and ultimately built up his tolerance to levels
requiring dozens of pills per day in order to, as Limbaugh once
confided in his maid, "get my buzz on."

A textbook example of the damning effects of drug abuse,
Limbaugh's addiction precipitated a swift drop in weight,
deafness in both ears, and a marked decline in mental faculties.
He also became increasingly paranoid - requiring his provider to
meet him at night behind restaurants, next to dumpsters,
where he'd hand over cigar boxes stuffed with "cabbage" (cash)
in exchange for some "little baby blues" (pills). Limbaugh's
desperation peaked in 2003, when he groped his provider in an
attempt to check her for a wire tap.

By late 2003 the whole world knew of Limbaugh's drug
addiction, though by virtue of their lack of character the
majority of his fan base remained loyal listeners. Limbaugh's
show remained popular, despite the rapid rise of Liberal Talk
Show host Al Franken and the dogged attempts by the Bush
administration to shut down long time talk show staple Howard
Stern.

In May 2004 Rush's third wife, Marta, grew tired of never
having sex with her allegedly closeted homosexual of a
husband, and so asked for a divorce. Limbaugh complied after his
desperate wife agreed to never reveal the true nature of Rush's sexual perversion
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 05:59 pm
Quote:
Oh bullshit, that like saying Rush owes his success to Joe Pine. Rush owes his success to the legion of ignoramuses who want to hear someone who echoes their backward view of the world.


Oh bullshit, that like saying Franken owes his success to Joe Pine. Franken owes his success to the legion of ignoramuses who want to hear someone who echoes their backward view of the world.

Both sides aim their message at the people that want to hear them.
Its called "targeting your audience".
So,If Rush is aiming his message at those who agree with him,you have to say that Al Franken is doing the same thing.
People want to listen to those who agree with them,not those who dont.

Where is the Rove indictment you promised?
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parados
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 06:02 pm
1993 review of Rush's " The Way Things Ought to Be."

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In case you're wondering, the author explains in the first lines of the acknowledgments that though no writer, he was "determined nevertheless to actually write the book, rather than farm it out to a ghost writer." Two sentences on, he tells how John Fund, an editorial writer for The Wall Street Journal, interviewed him on tape, then wrote the first draft. All clear?

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CEEDB133AF932A15751C0A965958260
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parados
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 06:07 pm
Rush is hardly a pioneer.

Go back and listen to some of the political radio from the 30s and 40s.

Rush was blessed with the repeal of the equal time law, nothing else. The radio provocateurs from the 30s outdid Rush before the equal time law came into effect.
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