Where angels dare tread...

Doktor S wrote:

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we do not have souls, we are souls, as are animals.

Plant has a laws as spirit.. but law is basic than spirit. And duty angel with it.

Animal has spirit and concious.. and ve angel which shows their prayer.

Human has spirit and concious.. mind .. heart .. also angels and satan for everyone.

Angel is spirit who also dress with lightfull body.. also concious etc..

Spiritiual beings : They ve only spirit. Pure spirit.

Gynn : They ve body which created by fire.. But they r not similar with fire.. (as) Adam is from earth but He is not similar with earth.

etc.....

God certainly has the power to have destroyed the rebels immediately. But his power was not in question. What Satan called into dispute was the rightfulness of God's sovereignty and the integrity of his sentient creatures.

The issue may be taking what seems to us an intolerable length of time; but God's timetable is set by God, not us.

This first side you find everything .. god, evil...

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neologist wrote:

God certainly has the power to have destroyed the rebels immediately. But his power was not in question. What Satan called into dispute was the rightfulness of God's sovereignty and the integrity of his sentient creatures.

The issue may be taking what seems to us an intolerable length of time; but God's timetable is set by God, not us.

Ok that's fair enough. Well, I believe that God had the power, but I wonder why He didn't just save us all a little trouble and take care of the mess before it started... Especially considering the end result being their destruction anyway.

Satan is bad according to us and also Qur'an.. But it is one type of Wisdom .. Inside..

Most important thing is not to listen satan.. Second face , second side of satan (GOD WILL) is so good.. Because God wanted to differs people with little bad existence..

kevnmoon wrote:

Satan was at one time a glorious son of God who made himself satan because of selfishness and pride.

If you change ''son of God'' and put angel name it will be near truth.. Because all Prophets' (who tells everything) biggest aim is Unity of God.. God who has no son or participants..

hephzibah wrote:

neologist wrote:

God certainly has the power to have destroyed the rebels immediately. But his power was not in question. What Satan called into dispute was the rightfulness of God's sovereignty and the integrity of his sentient creatures.

The issue may be taking what seems to us an intolerable length of time; but God's timetable is set by God, not us.

Ok that's fair enough. Well, I believe that God had the power, but I wonder why He didn't just save us all a little trouble and take care of the mess before it started... Especially considering the end result being their destruction anyway.

Have you been reading the exchange between me and kev?
So many folks honestly believe God must have deliberately set this all in motion - that all the evil and misery in the world at one time existed only in the mind of God.

For whatever it's worth, time has been necessary to resolve this issue. Not just for us, perhaps, but for the entire universe.

The central issue of the universe, first raised by Satan, is does God have the right to demand obedience from his sentient creatures?

You would think that simply by saying God loves us and would only prescribe what is best for us is a satisfactory answer. But when you read the cross section of human opinion as represented on this board, you would have to say that the issue has certainly NOT been resolved.