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What should be done about illegal immigration?

 
 
Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 02:55 pm
It's simple economics, Einstein. Why don't you respond to the posts for a change rather than just spewing your constant repetitive drivel.

So you have the time to goof off at work responding to multiple threads but you don't have time to goof off and read the Bernstein piece.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 03:06 pm
jpinMilwaukee wrote:
I didn't realize that the countries production rested solely on the shoulders of illegal immigrants. What else besides produce is in such danger of skyrocketing costs that only the elitest of the elite will be able to afford it?


It's a snowball effect jp.

ralpheb, machines can't be used everywhere, try to pick strawberries,
oranges, or any fruit from trees for that matter with a machines. It
won't work, otherwise machines would be used. If you give a farmer
the option between 50 undocumented workers versus one single machine
who can do the job, they all take the machine.
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el pohl
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 03:18 pm
Right again CJ, you are in a roll! Wink

And yes Foxfyre, definitely. The best solution that would really make me happy would be that my humble country turns into an independent nation, that can give a decent home and decent life to its citizens. That however, won't seem to happen anytime soon, for quite a number of reasons.

Thanks for the compliment though! Hopefully a website named "capazporconocer.com" or similar is debating the same issue, from a south-to-north perspective.

Last time I checked, there was none Sad .
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ralpheb
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 03:19 pm
And if he has his choice between 50 ILLEGALS that he can pay under the table and not pay medical benifits to or pay taxes on he will chose them of 50 Legalized immigrants that he must pay all that too PLUS he still gets a stipened from the government.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 03:57 pm
ralpheb, you obviously never had a business, otherwise
you wouldn't say that. A machine is amortized in a few
years and that's the end of it. The 50 undocumented workers
require far more maintenance.

el_pohl, that would be ideal. Mexico is a rich country, I mean
rich on natural resources such as minerals (silver, copper,
zinc etc.) and agriculture (tabacco, coffee, beans etc.) in
addition to a cheap labor force that's ideal for manufacturing.
The country could be very, very profitable for everyone,
if it would weed out the corruption, starting from the top of
the government down to the various police officer.
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el pohl
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 04:14 pm
Correct, but in that chain of corruption I must add another link, common citizens like me.
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ralpheb
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 04:22 pm
THEY ARE NOT UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS THEY ARE ILLEGALS
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 04:31 pm
undocumented workers = someone lacking necessary documents (as for e.g. permission to live or work in a country)
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 04:55 pm
CalamityJane wrote:
ralpheb, you obviously never had a business, otherwise
you wouldn't say that. A machine is amortized in a few
years and that's the end of it. The 50 undocumented workers
require far more maintenance.

el_pohl, that would be ideal. Mexico is a rich country, I mean
rich on natural resources such as minerals (silver, copper,
zinc etc.) and agriculture (tabacco, coffee, beans etc.) in
addition to a cheap labor force that's ideal for manufacturing.
The country could be very, very profitable for everyone,
if it would weed out the corruption, starting from the top of
the government down to the various police officer.


Mexico is an oligarchy. Maybe we should get the CIA to foment a revolution to establish a democracy. Even a Castro-style communist state would serve the common man more than this one does.
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au1929
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 05:02 pm
CalamityJane
Undocumented worker: someone in this ccountry illegally. Yes CJ they are illegals.
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ralpheb
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 05:04 pm
ergo no documentation=illegal therfore no rights. I am not politically correct I call them as they are ILLEGAL. not supposed to be here NO RIGHTS.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 05:09 pm
Better read the Constitution.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 05:10 pm
ralpheb wrote:
ergo no documentation=illegal therfore no rights. I am not politically correct I call them as they are ILLEGAL. not supposed to be here NO RIGHTS.


Actually, there are aliens here legally without work permits. Therefore thay are not ILLEGAL ALIENS. So YOU ARE WRONG.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 05:15 pm
ralpheb wrote:
ergo no documentation=illegal therfore no rights. I am not politically correct I call them as they are ILLEGAL. not supposed to be here NO RIGHTS.


Right, schmight, once these people are living in the US, they become
our responsibility, thus we have to see that a) their children (mostly born
in the US) get an adequate education, b) they're provided with healthcare
and c) that we treat them in a decent manner.
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au1929
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 05:23 pm
These people are here illegally. We the taxpayers of this nation owe them nothing. Except deportation.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 05:31 pm
You see them being deported? Me neither!
As long as they're living in the United States, they're our responsibility, anything else would be cruel.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 05:33 pm
CalamityJane wrote:
ralpheb wrote:
ergo no documentation=illegal therfore no rights. I am not politically correct I call them as they are ILLEGAL. not supposed to be here NO RIGHTS.


Right, schmight, once these people are living in the US, they become
our responsibility, thus we have to see that a) their children (mostly born
in the US) get an adequate education, b) they're provided with healthcare
and c) that we treat them in a decent manner.


Some of these "illegal aliens" have kids who have died fighting for the freedoms ralpheb enjoys and wants to deny to others.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 05:34 pm
au1929 wrote:
These people are here illegally. We the taxpayers of this nation owe them nothing. Except deportation.


As if undocumented workers don't pay taxes too. These are racist attitudes, pure and simple.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 06:50 pm
There it is again.
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ralpheb
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 07:00 pm
Its been my experience that the people who yell racism the most are often the biggest racists. why is that?
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