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What should be done about illegal immigration?

 
 
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2007 12:34 pm
Semantics education. Today's lesson:

ANCHOR BABY
(These were the first credible sources my search engine pulled up. There are many hundreds more.)

Frontpage Magazine
http://www.americanpatrol.com/ANCHORBABIES/AnchorBabiesAllanWall.html

FAIR
http://www.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/anchorbaby_FAIR.html

Answers.com
http://www.answers.com/topic/anchor-baby

CAIR
http://www.cairco.org/info/terms.html

Double-tongued Dictionary
http://www.doubletongued.org/index.php/dictionary/anchor_baby/

Yahoo Answers
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070330191047AA7w98N

MSNBC
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10609068/

Judicial Watch
http://www.corruptionchronicles.com/2006/12/louisianas_anchor_baby_crisis.html

Anchor Baby even has its own logo
http://www.team1newport.com/prodinfo.asp?number=SLT503W

Poetry re alternate definitionhttp://www.lafmacun.org/bak/anchor+baby

CalNews.com
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2007 12:43 pm
Quote:
first credible sources


Ah yes, CAIR, FAIR, and FrontPageMag - all credible sources which show that people other than nativists and racists use the term universally Laughing

Fox, you are a veritable LAFF RIOT Laughing Laughing

Cycloptichorn
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2007 12:46 pm
http://i9.tinypic.com/2cmlx1v.jpg
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2007 12:49 pm
Bill

We can agree on a few points:

1) All Mexican immigrants are not crossing the border for hand-outs.
2) The majority of Mexican immigrants are decent, hard working people.
3) The solution to the problem of "anchor babies" should not involve separating the child from its mother.
4) Mexicans are not entitled to immigrate to the US.

I think we may disagree on some others

1) People who wish to restrict immigration, legal or illegal, are not necessarily bigots or even nativists.
2) People who are concerned about the costs and institutional burdens presented by illegal immigrants who do come for or end up needing hand-outs are not necessarily bigots or nativists.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2007 12:52 pm
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2007 12:54 pm
Actually, Wikipedia is the only dictionary which gives some sources for that term and explains it.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2007 12:56 pm
Noone needs any protection from the likes of you, Foxfyre. You see, I'm not afraid to address you directly, as you are me. But then again, I haven't been smacked rhetorically by you time and time again, so I suppose the fear is understandable.

The term 'anchor baby' is a pejorative because the only people who actually use it, mean it that way each and every time. Including yourself. But instead of having the balls to stand behind your bigotry, you duck, run, and claim 'personal attacks! personal attacks!' over and over again as if that somehow proves you right. It doesn't. When are you going to realize this?

Cycloptichorn
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2007 01:01 pm
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2007 01:14 pm
blatham wrote:
It's new to me too. It could be better. Perhaps parasite-egg.
Laughing
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2007 01:15 pm
Sure, so when someone says words like 'n*gger' or 'wetback' or 'hajii' or 'nips,' those aren't pejorative terms either. I mean, some people might use them that way, but they really are just convenient ways of describing the situation.

Rolling Eyes

The racists' and nativists' defense doesn't change much as time goes on. The same excuses have been used for years.

I am against illegal immigration and have no love for illegal immigrants, but I don't see the need to demean them constantly like you and others do.

Cycloptichorn
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old europe
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2007 01:23 pm
Foxfyre wrote:


Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Let me guess: you spent about 1.24 minutes "researching" those resources, right?

From that website above:

http://i11.tinypic.com/2ron8ys.jpg

You didn't even bother to read what's written below the picture, did you? It's not an "Anchor Baby T-shirt", it's a "100% cotton baby rib" shirt with an anchor logo on it.


(Next thing you're going to do is claiming I quoted you out of context. And then you'll claim that you were only joking.)
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2007 01:26 pm
old europe wrote:
It's not an "Anchor Baby T-shirt", it's a "100% cotton baby rib" shirt with an anchor logo on it.


You are a nitpicker. And of course it is taken out of context and you couldn't see the humour.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2007 01:28 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
Wikipedia is not the only source to provide a definition or where the term comes from.

The very first line in Wikipedia, however, is "Anchor Baby is a pejorative term." Right there you can figure whoever wrote the article was out to make an ideological statement and that makes it all at least suspect.
Laughing Or, if you're not bent on denying you didn't know it was a pejorative term, likely because your prefer biased pseudo-facts from defamatory websites; you could just figure it is a pejorative term. Idea
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old europe
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2007 01:33 pm
Walter: Very Happy
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woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2007 01:35 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:
old europe wrote:
It's not an "Anchor Baby T-shirt", it's a "100% cotton baby rib" shirt with an anchor logo on it.


You are a nitpicker. And of course it is taken out of context and you couldn't see the humour.


Gee, if we only got the belly button shot!
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old europe
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2007 01:36 pm
It's a nice shirt. And a good logo.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2007 01:42 pm
I guess NBC stands for Nativist-Bigot-Corporation

Anchor Babies

The argument about this term is ridiculous.

If it is so terrible, provide us with an alternative.

Babies born to illegal immigrants with some hope or belief that the child will help them to remain in the country of their choice is tough to repeatedly type.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2007 01:45 pm
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
Bill

We can agree on a few points:

1) All Mexican immigrants are not crossing the border for hand-outs.
2) The majority of Mexican immigrants are decent, hard working people.
3) The solution to the problem of "anchor babies" should not involve separating the child from its mother.
4) Mexicans are not entitled to immigrate to the US.
Yep.

Finn dAbuzz wrote:
I think we may disagree on some others

1) People who wish to restrict immigration, legal or illegal, are not necessarily bigots or even nativists.
2) People who are concerned about the costs and institutional burdens presented by illegal immigrants who do come for or end up needing hand-outs are not necessarily bigots or nativists.
Nope. You seem to wish and be concerned about those things, but as of yet, have offered no reason for me to consider you a bigot or even a nativist. You could be both, for all I know, but you haven't stooped to parroting false, defamatory statements and statistics and have acknowledged relevant points in the oppositionÂ… nor have you invented any of your own. This is in stark contrast to what Foxy has done here. (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you reasoned out your own definition for anchor baby, and were unaware the combination of words is a favorite for bigots and nativists alike.)(Neither was I, btw, but it did strike me as offensive immediately).
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2007 01:49 pm
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
I guess NBC stands for Nativist-Bigot-Corporation

Anchor Babies

The argument about this term is ridiculous.

If it is so terrible, provide us with an alternative.

Babies born to illegal immigrants with some hope or belief that the child will help them to remain in the country of their choice is tough to repeatedly type.
Now you're pushing it. Poor, uneducated African Americans, living in the ghetto gets tiresome too. Much easier to just say niggers... or do you know an alternative word?
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2007 01:59 pm
Not to mention that stories written by a staffer at a local NBC station in Florida are hardly dispositive evidence that the term enjoys 'universal' usage, as Fox claimed.

Cycloptichorn
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