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SUPPORT THE TROOPS - What Does That Mean To You ??

 
 
Eryemil
 
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Reply Fri 31 Mar, 2006 05:19 am
mysteryman wrote:
Not true. I was in several places that were hit by natural disasters,putting my skills to use.
We picked up Cuban and Haitian refugees,where I put my skills to use.

My military training has been useful when I have come acroos traffic accidents where people have been hurt.

The medics in WW2 were also there to save lives. Are you saying they shouldnt have been there?

You need to experience life a little bit before you criticize something you know nothing about.
By your own admission you are to young to serve,yet you are attacking and denigrating those of us who did choose to serve.
How can someone as young as you say you are be so full of hate for the military and this countries vets?

That is praise-worthy mysteryman, I however, stand by what I've said. You can still help out without joining the military. By enlisting you're saying that whatever crimes the military has committed were necessary or of no import. That is unacceptable.

I've experienced enough of life to know that it is worth living and that no person has the right to rip it away from another.

I grew up in Cuba, a country whose people are still suffering from a blockade, a relic of the Cold War, and a failed revolution. Part of my family came from war torn Europe to make a new life for themselves, the other part managed to live through Batista's dictatorship. Trust me, I know war and conflict.

Don't hold my age against me.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 31 Mar, 2006 05:20 am
Eyemil,

Oh, guess you missed the part about where I said I hate war? I cannot stop the war. You cannot stop the war. If we could, we would.

Guilty for their crimes? It's men and women that are serving now and those that have served in the past that give you the right to feel the way you do.

I do not insist on there being a war. I resent your implication.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 31 Mar, 2006 05:26 am
Eryemil wrote:
It seems very ironic to me that you can support the military at all. I guess the only question left to ask is why?

Yet more irony; you were trained to save people that wouldn't be hurt had you not been there in the first place.


It's quite ironic, Eryemil, you might be correct - but we wouldn't have medical doctors and no hospitals for several centuries if the Romans hadn't 'invented' such.

A granduncle (navy) and my father (WWII) served, drafted, as mecical sugeons.
And my father was as POW from 1946 until 1948 the leading doctor of a interior department (390 beds) in the [American-]French Military Hospital Cherbourg.

I don't agree with mysteryman often, if at all, but your view of the medical services in armed forces is a bit ... well, slightly twisted, lt me put it this way.
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Eryemil
 
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Reply Fri 31 Mar, 2006 05:43 am
Momma Angel wrote:
Eyemil,

Oh, guess you missed the part about where I said I hate war? I cannot stop the war. You cannot stop the war. If we could, we would.

Guilty for their crimes? It's men and women that are serving now and those that have served in the past that give you the right to feel the way you do.

I do not insist on there being a war. I resent your implication.


Momma, as long as people accept horrible things as part of life the true horror will be washed out and romanticized. We two cannot stop the war, but a few million voices could.

Were the battles for civil rights and reason fought by just one person? There is a lot that one person can do but the difference is made by the numbers.

These troops, they're guilty of apathy. You can't fight a war without soldiers, the fact that they chose to enlist is telling that on some level they agree that killing is necessary. Robbing people of their lives is not acceptable.

I'm sure that if the US put as much effort into devising ways to protect the country in non-violent ways, it'd happen. Why isn't it happening? This country is very powerful economically there are so many ways this can be used to keep any would-be bruiser in check but that would require friendly talk with those nasty Europeans. :wink:
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Eryemil
 
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Reply Fri 31 Mar, 2006 05:50 am
Call me an idealist Wilter but I refuse to accept that there isn't another way to solve conflicts.

The only reasons things are the way they are is because people either want them that way, are apathetic or think it's hopeless and won't try to change them.

I just don't think that's acceptable. Everyone agrees that war is horrible so why aren't people doing anything about it? Lack of creativity? May be. Neutral
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 31 Mar, 2006 09:10 am
You're an idealist, Eryemil.
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Anon-Voter
 
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Reply Fri 31 Mar, 2006 10:46 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Eryemil wrote:
It seems very ironic to me that you can support the military at all. I guess the only question left to ask is why?

Yet more irony; you were trained to save people that wouldn't be hurt had you not been there in the first place.


It's quite ironic, Eryemil, you might be correct - but we wouldn't have medical doctors and no hospitals for several centuries if the Romans hadn't 'invented' such.

A granduncle (navy) and my father (WWII) served, drafted, as mecical sugeons.
And my father was as POW from 1946 until 1948 the leading doctor of a interior department (390 beds) in the [American-]French Military Hospital Cherbourg.

I don't agree with mysteryman often, if at all, but your view of the medical services in armed forces is a bit ... well, slightly twisted, lt me put it this way.


Ah Yes!! The Romans ... True philanthropists they!!!

Anon
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Anon-Voter
 
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Reply Fri 31 Mar, 2006 10:49 am
Eryemil wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
Not true. I was in several places that were hit by natural disasters,putting my skills to use.
We picked up Cuban and Haitian refugees,where I put my skills to use.

My military training has been useful when I have come acroos traffic accidents where people have been hurt.

The medics in WW2 were also there to save lives. Are you saying they shouldnt have been there?

You need to experience life a little bit before you criticize something you know nothing about.
By your own admission you are to young to serve,yet you are attacking and denigrating those of us who did choose to serve.
How can someone as young as you say you are be so full of hate for the military and this countries vets?

That is praise-worthy mysteryman, I however, stand by what I've said. You can still help out without joining the military. By enlisting you're saying that whatever crimes the military has committed were necessary or of no import. That is unacceptable.

I've experienced enough of life to know that it is worth living and that no person has the right to rip it away from another.

I grew up in Cuba, a country whose people are still suffering from a blockade, a relic of the Cold War, and a failed revolution. Part of my family came from war torn Europe to make a new life for themselves, the other part managed to live through Batista's dictatorship. Trust me, I know war and conflict.

Don't hold my age against me.


Mysteryman holds it against you that he can't bully you into agreeing with him. You stand your ground youngun, you will always have those like Mysteryman. Typical military brute!

Anon
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Anon-Voter
 
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Reply Fri 31 Mar, 2006 10:52 am
Eryemil wrote:
Call me an idealist Wilter but I refuse to accept that there isn't another way to solve conflicts.

The only reasons things are the way they are is because people either want them that way, are apathetic or think it's hopeless and won't try to change them.

I just don't think that's acceptable. Everyone agrees that war is horrible so why aren't people doing anything about it? Lack of creativity? May be. Neutral


You just keep hold on your moral compass, and continue with what seems to be a great education! The bullies and the brutes hate the educated, which is all the more reason to be!!!

Anon
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 31 Mar, 2006 10:52 am
Ticomaya wrote:
You're an idealist, Eryemil.


That must be why you are a lawyer. I don't think I would have chosen that word.
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Anon-Voter
 
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Reply Fri 31 Mar, 2006 10:55 am
Momma Angel wrote:
Eyemil,

Oh, guess you missed the part about where I said I hate war? I cannot stop the war. You cannot stop the war. If we could, we would.

Guilty for their crimes? It's men and women that are serving now and those that have served in the past that give you the right to feel the way you do.

I do not insist on there being a war. I resent your implication.


People like you make war possible Momma! You feed it!! You vote for it!! You support it with everything you do!

Anon
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Anon-Voter
 
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Reply Fri 31 Mar, 2006 10:56 am
dyslexia wrote:
war, what is it good for: absolutely nothing.


I loved that song!!!!

Anon
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 31 Mar, 2006 11:01 am
McGentrix wrote:

That must be why you are a lawyer. I don't think I would have chosen that word.


I'd never got the idea to combine 'idealist' with a jurisprudencial profession at first place.

But when you say so ...
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 31 Mar, 2006 11:03 am
Anon-Voter wrote:
Momma Angel wrote:
Eyemil,

Oh, guess you missed the part about where I said I hate war? I cannot stop the war. You cannot stop the war. If we could, we would.

Guilty for their crimes? It's men and women that are serving now and those that have served in the past that give you the right to feel the way you do.

I do not insist on there being a war. I resent your implication.


People like you make war possible Momma! You feed it!! You vote for it!! You support it with everything you do!

Anon


It's been my experience that most wars are made possible through military aggression on one side defended against by another side. Not because Momma Angel votes Republican. So, why the angry rhetoric?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 31 Mar, 2006 11:06 am
In view of the fact that the Republicans are responsible for this example of "military agression," the thesis seems very plausible.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 31 Mar, 2006 11:12 am
Setanta wrote:
In view of the fact that the Republicans are responsible for this example of "military agression," the thesis seems very plausible.


No it doesn't. It seems very rhetorical and argumentative. Something Anon-Voter excels at.

It's not like you defend a statement as retarded as "People like you make war possible Momma! You feed it!! You vote for it!! You support it with everything you do!" so why are you?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 31 Mar, 2006 11:21 am
I'm simply pointing out that by the definition which you provided of the cause of war, "military aggression," Anon's reference to voting for Republicans, those who are responsible for the "military aggression" in Iraq--you are confirming his point of view . . . not me at all.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 31 Mar, 2006 11:29 am
Had he said "this war" I probably would not have said anything and let it pass, but he didn't. So why defend his statement?
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Fri 31 Mar, 2006 11:31 am
Supporting the troops, is a multivocal statement. One the one hand it means support Bush's policies in Iraq and, to take another variation, provide them with adequate armour and support for their families at home and the preservation of their jobs and medical treatment for the wounded. For me, it means just get them out of harm's way.
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Montana
 
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Reply Fri 31 Mar, 2006 11:31 am
<Montana pulls her chair a little closer>
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