justa_babbling_brooke wrote:Chumly,
Assigning blame, even in the RARE instance when it may be justified, never results in a productive outcome. And while sometimes, we as humans, may be very defensive and point our finger at the other person and blame them totally, does not make that blame justifiable. Kitkat and her husband are a couple. THEY have a sexual problem. Not him, and not her, but THEY. This problem has to be owned by both partners, without casting blame. It's the only way that they can be truely committed to resolve it.
The ethics and perspectives of blame assignment are in need of further examination as is a mutually agreeable definition of blame assignment. However this much I will say, I do not consider all problems that two people have, to be problems that must be viewed as both their problem. Simply because they are a couple, and have a relationship, does not mean that they are bound together at the hips, or that one person alone is not the cause of the problem or that one person should not shoulder more of the burden of responsibility.
To wit: if there is no blame assignment, there can be no burden of responsibility, if there is no burden of responsibility, then there can be no directed action.
justa_babbling_brooke wrote:Perhaps you did, indeed, show someone what pleased you, and you were the most gentle person in the world and the most loving.
Hold on Newt, I am taking you at your word and I expect the same in return when say specifically
Chumly wrote:
I have been with some who just don't really get it, even if you are kind and gentle and loving, even if you show them many times.
justa_babbling_brooke wrote:But that doesn't mean you still were not at fault. That fault could have been hidden elsewhere in the depths of your relationship, IMO.
If what you say had merit that would mean that all people are equal in their abilities to be really good sexual partners, and that is simply not the case. A good relationship can bring out the best in a person sexually/sensually but that is a far cry from saying that all people are going to be equally good under the right conditions. The fact of the matter is, some people will try harder, some people will be more accommodating, some people will understand the language of sexuality/sensuality better, and some people simply have a better sense of eroticism, etc. No relationship, or kind and gentle and loving actions, or showing them many times what you want, is going to change the underlying fact that some people are simply more sexual/sensual/erotic than others. Some in fact are lot better than others good relationship or not.
justa_babbling_brooke wrote:I just have a hard time with finger pointing on matters that can be as complex as our attitudes towards our partner. Which in turn affects all aspects of the relationship, including the bedroom.
I am not denying the benefits of a good relationship in *hoping & trying* to bring out the best is someone, but all people are far from equal sexually/sensually/erotically regardless of the relationship.