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50,000 Errors in the Bible...Is Bible God's Word??

 
 
Smileyrius
 
  1  
Mon 20 Jul, 2015 04:48 am
@Krumple,
I have been wrong before, and I am wrong here my friend. Thank you for the correction K.
GorDie
 
  -2  
Mon 20 Jul, 2015 10:35 am
@Smileyrius,
ahahahah. perfect. and yet Krumple and so many other atheists wish it said, "the Earth appeared as an oblong spheroid". instead of a "circle", so they can scrutinize even more without grounds to be in opposition. Yet sphere and circle share the same word. XD AHAHAHAH
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FBM
 
  1  
Mon 20 Jul, 2015 10:41 am
Quote:
For or against?

MAT 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
(default is against)

MAR 9:40 For he that is not against us is on our part.
(default is for)

LUK 9:50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.
(default is for)
GorDie
 
  -2  
Mon 20 Jul, 2015 10:59 am
@Krumple,
Krumple. CORRECTION***

God said, "Let there be Light." and the Word of God, the Light of the Universe, Wisdom itself, the LORD God, Jesus, God's first creation, then created it.
And then God said, "this is good".
And God said, "let the waters be divided into two separate bodies", and so Jesus took the Light and he put it into the body of water, and it was molecularized and divided and became a firmament in the sky, which has a Physical(solid) boundary. And God said this was also Good.
Then God said, "Let the dry land come forth!" and Jesus took the energies of light which were now filling the bodies of gaseous elements (predominantly water bodies. WATERS) and he pressed it into the foundations of the earth, and there too the materials molecularized, and it expanded from within itself - leaving a geological mark which can be seen today, studied easily, and proves creation took place.
And the energy had no place to go, now, so God told Jesus, "take that and make seeds from it using the materials of water and dirt and Light." and Jesus did so, making seeds of every kind.
And God said, "This is Good."
Then God said, "There is no more place for the energy here, and light endlessly longs to cling to things - That is why I have not told you to spread it through the universe yet - so take the exponential energies and spread them through space.", SO Jesus, the Word of God, took the energy from the earth, and it was made to gather to itself about particles floating in space [the same way earth had been], and it created a sun, and gathers celestial bodies(from free floating particles), and Jesus did with it all that was pleasing and Good in the sight of his father.
So God said to Jesus, "Bring forth egg bearing creatures also!" and Jesus took the energies of the sun and the celestial bodies, and he introduced them to the word, which was stable now, and he created with them DNA for egg bearing creatures, and the DNA was made in a way that the energy and the matter necessary for them to be established indeed was, and the FULL illustration of the DNA Jesus had created was erected instantly. So eggs formed in the dust and in the sea, exactly as the DNA Jesus had designed specified.
And God said this, "Was GOOD."

Then God said, "Jesus, let us also create creatures on land. Ones which do not bear eggs!" And Jesus took of the dirt and the water and the light which was abundantly available, and he formed DNA for Creatures of all sorts, and they were formed instantaneously from the abundantly available materials of the earth in this time of creation. and he did so according to their environment, which was now universal, and thus the universe was pleasing to each.
And Jesus, Who had Created man for himself and his father, to enjoy all of creation as a personality of the creator could(introducing him tot he creatures), then gave Adam a wife. And creation was over.

Jesus Created all things. He is the Person of God, but he is not God himself.

How splendid a creation it is. and how easily it is too believe and understand. It is also scientifically provable, unlike any contradiction theories, which are not only false, but easily disproven with only a mere glance at what God has done with any amount of consideration.

Amen.

and Christ is our Salvation.
Respect, Honor, Dignity,
Unforgiveness unto Blasphemers, (those who deny the Word of God, and hate for what God hates.)
Glory be His for ever and ever.

Very Happy
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neologist
 
  1  
Mon 20 Jul, 2015 11:36 am
@Smileyrius,
To the ancients, more concerned with agriculture than astronomy, knowing the earth to be round was considerably more accurate, even sufficient, when compared to resting on a turtle.

Requiring the ancients to understand esoteric spherical configirations or express the value of pi to umpteen decimal places before decimal notation was even introduced is just another example of wannabe geniuses' attempts to avoid responsibility to the God who created them.

When I first began to consider the bible, I scoffed at the phrase 'four corners of the earth' as if any third grader would not understand what it meant. I soon realized if I really wanted to understand the bible, I would have to change from smartass to just plain smart.
neologist
 
  0  
Mon 20 Jul, 2015 11:48 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
Quote:
For or against?MAT 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
(default is against)

MAR 9:40 For he that is not against us is on our part.
(default is for)

LUK 9:50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.
(default is for)
Why would I understand this and you not understand? Could it be that I have studied the context and you just clipped a random quote from someone's confirmation bias?

Look up Matthew 11.25 and try to get the sense of it. It is not the intelligent ones who are denied spiritual enlightenment. It is those who are enomored by their intelligence who can't see simple truth. The bible gives permission, in a way, to those who refuse.
Frank Apisa
 
  0  
Mon 20 Jul, 2015 12:57 pm
@Smileyrius,
Smileyrius wrote:

I have been wrong before, and I am wrong here my friend. Thank you for the correction K.


Classy move, Smiley.

We see way too little of this in Internet discussions.
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InfraBlue
 
  1  
Mon 20 Jul, 2015 12:59 pm
@neologist,
What's this responsibility to God if God gave us free will?
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GorDie
 
  -2  
Mon 20 Jul, 2015 04:47 pm
@FBM,
Quote:
For or against?
MAT 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
(default is against)
MAR 9:40 For he that is not against us is on our part.
(default is for)
LUK 9:50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.
(default is for)

"Not with me** is against me", "Not against us**, is for me". therefor. they are the same. one negative, one positive.
simple. wtf were you thinking.

also. He that gatherth not with me, scattereth abroad = he that is not with me is against me.
FBM
 
  1  
Mon 20 Jul, 2015 07:27 pm
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

FBM wrote:
Quote:
For or against?MAT 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
(default is against)

MAR 9:40 For he that is not against us is on our part.
(default is for)

LUK 9:50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.
(default is for)
Why would I understand this and you not understand? Could it be that I have studied the context and you just clipped a random quote from someone's confirmation bias?

Look up Matthew 11.25 and try to get the sense of it. It is not the intelligent ones who are denied spiritual enlightenment. It is those who are enomored by their intelligence who can't see simple truth. The bible gives permission, in a way, to those who refuse.



If you're out to debunk it, bring or build your argument here. I posted what I saw.
FBM
 
  1  
Mon 20 Jul, 2015 07:28 pm
@GorDie,
GorDie wrote:

Quote:
For or against?
MAT 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
(default is against)
MAR 9:40 For he that is not against us is on our part.
(default is for)
LUK 9:50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.
(default is for)

"Not with me** is against me", "Not against us**, is for me". therefor. they are the same. one negative, one positive.
simple. wtf were you thinking.

also. He that gatherth not with me, scattereth abroad = he that is not with me is against me.


Not big on this whole logic thing, are you? Laughing

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neologist
 
  0  
Mon 20 Jul, 2015 07:49 pm
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
If you're out to debunk it, bring or build your argument here. I posted what I saw.
What you saw, eh?
Did you look at anything in context?
Did you enquire of parallel translations?
I'll get back to this later.
You won't go away? Will you?

FBM
 
  1  
Mon 20 Jul, 2015 08:02 pm
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

FBM wrote:
If you're out to debunk it, bring or build your argument here. I posted what I saw.
What you saw, eh?
Did you look at anything in context?
Did you enquire of parallel translations?
I'll get back to this later.


If you'd brought real information the first time instead of meaningless rhetoric, the issue would've been resolved already.

Quote:
You won't go away? Will you?


No more than you will. Why should I go away? Do you have some special privilege as a believer? This is a thread about BS in the Bible. I'm posting BS from the Bible. Problem?
FBM
 
  1  
Mon 20 Jul, 2015 08:05 pm
Quote:
Whom did they see at the tomb?

MAT 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
MAT 28:3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
MAT 28:4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.
MAT 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.

MAR 16:5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.

LUK 24:4 And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:

JOH 20:12 And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.
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Krumple
 
  1  
Mon 20 Jul, 2015 08:56 pm
@neologist,
neologist wrote:
When I first began to consider the bible, I scoffed at the phrase 'four corners of the earth' as if any third grader would not understand what it meant. I soon realized if I really wanted to understand the bible, I would have to change from smartass to just plain smart.


Well see that's the problem. Did they literally mean four corners of the earth or are you going to use your "smart" to suggest it is a reference to something else?

Here is the thing, if you take the greek version and read it, it refers to actual corners. But you want to be "smart" and exercise your mental gymnastics to suggest it means something different.

Why can't you just accept that they were limited in knowledge and got things wrong in the bible? Simple, accurate and true. Doing anything else you just end up lumping more nonsense onto the already inaccurate statement.
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neologist
 
  0  
Mon 20 Jul, 2015 11:08 pm
@FBM,
neologist wrote:
You won't go away? Will you?
FBM wrote:
No more than you will. Why should I go away? Do you have some special privilege as a believer? This is a thread about BS in the Bible. I'm posting BS from the Bible. Problem?
I was just kidding.
Here are the texts:
For or against?
Quote:
MAT 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. (default is against)
Broader text showing the contentions of the Pharisees:
Quote:
22 Then they brought him a demon-possessed man who was blind and speechless, and he cured him, so that the speechless man could speak and see. 23 Well, all the crowds were astounded and began to say: “May this not perhaps be the Son of David?” 24 At hearing this, the Pharisees said: “This fellow does not expel the demons except by means of Be·el′ze·bub, the ruler of the demons.” 25 Knowing their thoughts, he said to them: “Every kingdom divided against itself comes to ruin, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand. 26 In the same way, if Satan expels Satan, he has become divided against himself; how, then, will his kingdom stand? 27 Moreover, if I expel the demons by means of Be·el′ze·bub, by whom do your sons expel them? This is why they will be your judges. 28 But if it is by means of God’s spirit that I expel the demons, the Kingdom of God has really overtaken you.+ 29 Or how can anyone invade the house of a strong man and seize his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man? Only then can he plunder his house. 30 Whoever is not on my side is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters
I think this clearly explains Jesus' opinion of opposers.

While the following 2 citations refer to one who is clearly trying to do God's will:
Quote:
MAR 9:40 For he that is not against us is on our part.
(default is for)
Quote:
38 John said to him: “Teacher, we saw someone expelling demons by using your name, and we tried to prevent him, because he was not following us.” 39 But Jesus said: “Do not try to prevent him, for there is no one who will do a powerful work on the basis of my name who will quickly be able to say anything bad about me. 40 For whoever is not against us is for us.
Quote:
LUK 9:50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.
(default is for)
Quote:
49 In response John said: “Instructor, we saw someone expelling demons by using your name, and we tried to prevent him, because he is not following with us.” 50 But Jesus said to him: “Do not try to prevent him, for whoever is not against you is for you.”
2 situations - 2 explanations
FBM
 
  1  
Tue 21 Jul, 2015 07:36 am
@neologist,
What exactly does that explain?
Krumple
 
  1  
Tue 21 Jul, 2015 09:45 pm
@FBM,
FBM wrote:

What exactly does that explain?


It's the build up of the persecution complex. Christians love to be persecuted. Sure they cry and complain about it but in all honesty they love it and in some cases purposely try to build up a point where they will be persecuted.

It's to say when someone disagrees with Jesus that they don't actually accomplish anything but instead they become a supporter.

So when you reveal the bible to be faulty, rather than address the actual points being made, they are ignored and in the place a bunch of nonsense about a person who opposes you is really just your supporter.

Typical, I don't want to read what you are saying because there are probably great points that will shake my faith and I don't want that to happen so I'll just repeat some nonsense my pastor told me to say any time there is a point that I can't address.

"I must maintain the brainwashing. Need to run the oppressed oppressor is my supporter algorithm. Check mate."
FBM
 
  1  
Wed 22 Jul, 2015 07:01 am
@Krumple,
AKA "liberation theology." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_theology
Krumple
 
  0  
Fri 24 Jul, 2015 05:37 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:


He said twice that he had something to refute me with. Fire for my strawmen? Is he still trying to light the hay? Rubbing two sticks together? Can't find any matches? He had to order his flame retardant suit and is waiting for it to arrive in the mail? I really thought he was going to have something. But all we get is a person who opposes you is really just your friend. Nails himself up on a cross next to jesus.
 

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