Rethinking Homosexuality

The key is consenting adults. There is no victim when both parties are adults and consent to have a sexual relationship. They have the rational and reasonable right to be able to legally bond that relationship. It is coming and no matter what, those laws against gay marriage will be struck down as unconstitutional. Better bite the bullet now.

Setanta wrote:

Those are not analogous to homosexual marriage, which does not envision plural marriage or the marriage of people closely related by blood. There was not a working definition of marriage being the legal contract between a man and a woman until people became paranoid about the possibility of homosexual marriage. In fact, homosexual marriage envisions no change in the concept of two consenting adults joining in a contractual relationship.

I am not surprised, though, to see a fuandamentalist fanatic attempting to equate homosexuality to such ideas, as it is implicit in fundy rage on this topic that they consider homosexuality to be perversion.

Hi Setanta,

siblings

parent & adult age child

aunt-nephew

grandparent-grandchild (adult age)

These are all consenting adults. Why would you not allow them to marry?

Don't give me some rationale for prohibition about being related by blood (doesn't that come from the Bible?)

You are not consistent if you make such exceptions. They are all consenting adults, aren't they?

Animals cannot consent. Period.

In a family situation, there are power issues that substantially impair informed consent. That's also verifiable and not just my opinion.

There are also genetic issues that are not present with homosexual couples.

Meanwhile, it does not say anything about what is actually wrong with homosexuality. You don't like it -- we're well aware of that. The Bible says it's bad -- but the Bible says a lot of other things are bad too that you nonethless don't listen to. You say it's unhealthy -- but the statistics you trot out show that many other demographic groups have higher rates of unhealthiness (depending on the specific issue, such as suicide, or AIDS, etc.), so what should be done about them? Should white men not be allowed to marry because they're more likely to commit suicide? Should black women not be allowed to marry because they're getting AIDS at an alarming rate?

You keep skipping from one thing to the other, but none of them hold water.

It comes down to, apparently, your own personal revulsion.

I take that back, now I see he is trolling.

I would like to know who THEY are?

It means you don't merit an answer, because YOU don't answer anything.

Troll.

Ooof. A lot of problems in that last post, but I'll focus on one:

None of this is my decision. Though I may wish to be, I am not the Omnipotent Queen of the Universe. (On second thought, I wouldn't want to be, I'm too busy already.)

There is something specific being discussed here, and being legislated around America. SHOULD GAY AND LESBIAN MARRIAGES BE LEGAL? And Is there anything wrong with homosexuality?

Saying "well but that's kind of like THIS and THIS is bad" doesn't cut it. That could as easily go the other way -- the closest parallel to a homosexual marriage is a heterosexual marriage, and as we all know heterosexual marriage is awesome, so therefore homosexual marriage is awesome.

But you're not buying that, right? Can't have it both ways.

So we're back at, what IS wrong with homosexuality? What IS wrong with homosexual marriage?

(Shhsss -- he's trying to get that image out of his head of parents f**cking).