Rethinking Homosexuality

"A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another." (Jesus as quoted by John 13:34-35)

Love is but a song we sing
And fear's the way we die
You can make the mountains ring
Or make the angels cry
Though the bird is on the wing
You may not know why

Come on people now
Smile on your brother
Everybody get together
Try to love one another right now

Some may come and some may go
We will surely pass
When the one that left us here
Returns for us at last
We are but a moment's sunlight
Fading in the grass yeah

Come on people now
Smile on your brother
Everybody get together
Try to love one another right now

Come on people now
Smile on your brother
Everybody get together
Try to love one another right now

If you hear the song we sing
You will understand
You hold the key to love and fear
All in your trembling hand
Just one key unlocks them both
It's there at your command

Come on people now
Smile on your brother
Everybody get together
Try to love one another right now

Come on people now
Smile on your brother
Everybody get together
Try to love one another right now
Try to love one another right now
Try to love one another right now

In the Bible, God does regard homosexual acts as sin.

You could start with the fact the homosexuals as a group have a significantly shorter life span than the population in general.

Also ANY sexually promiscuous lifestyle, homosexual or heterosexual, will inevitably contribute greatly to the spread of STD, including HIV/AIDS.

So, is it 'intolerant' to warn people about a lifestyle that contributes to sickness and is demographically associated with early death?

Prejudice stems from a lack of empathy. I'm curious to see how mainstream christian groups will view these "disfunctional" families. We as Christians have fallen into a ritual thinking that I'm beginning to see is overtly backward in comparison to Jesus' message.

Prejudice stems from a lack of empathy. I'm curious to see how mainstream christian groups will view these "disfunctional" families. We as Christians have fallen into a ritual thinking that I'm beginning to see is overtly backward in comparison to Jesus' message.

Yes, in fact heterosexual couples are more likely to put refigerators and old trucks (and a 69 Camero) on blocks in their front yard thus lowering property values for everyone within 9 city blocks. It's a proven fact.

Seeing this made getting out of bed today worthwhile!

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this issue, TR.

I love you.

thunder! Always nice to see threads like this. Good stuff.

real life wrote:

In the Bible, God does regard homosexual acts as sin.

Usually the question arises 'who should care? nobody's getting hurt.' (similar arguments are used in regard to drug use)

You could start with the fact the homosexuals as a group have a significantly shorter life span than the population in general.

Also ANY sexually promiscuous lifestyle, homosexual or heterosexual, will inevitably contribute greatly to the spread of STD, including HIV/AIDS.

So, is it 'intolerant' to warn people about a lifestyle that contributes to sickness and is demographically associated with early death?

You must LOVE lesbians, then.

(Healthier than the general population; less promiscuous than the general population.)

real life wrote:

In the Bible, God does regard homosexual acts as sin.

Only male homosexual acts, may I point out. From what I've seen, God couldn't care less if girls go at it.

real life wrote:

You could start with the fact the homosexuals as a group have a significantly shorter life span than the population in general.

Provided by a study done by a known homophobe that was kicked out of the Association he belonged to. We've discussed this before. Plus, it was only one study and no other study since then has backed the evidence up.................You are presuming a lot about homosexuals, based on studies performed by a homophobic bigot.

It's pure anecdotal, as I'm sure I told you before. I have horrible taste in clothes and decorating houses.

God does not forbid homosexuality to deny happiness. He forbids homosexuality because, as our creator, he wishes to keep us from its consequences.

neologist wrote:

God does not forbid homosexuality to deny happiness. He forbids homosexuality because, as our creator, he wishes to keep us from its consequences.

What would those be??

Anon

I've been thinking about this a lot lately, and looking back, I feel like an intolerant prick. Recent events have introduced me to several homosexual people and since then I have continually scrutinized my beliefs. Previously, I was under the false notion that God hates homosexuality... which I no longer believe.

I used logical (logical in my mind :wink: ) reasoning to conclude that the only laws and rules that are worth having, are the ones that help to protect people....so who the heck is going to get hurt by gay people?

Any thoughts to further lead me out of this blind prejudice?

You made the allegations first, real life, support away. All of 'em.

H-160.991 Health Care Needs of the Homosexual Population.
Our AMA: (1) believes that the physician's nonjudgmental recognition of sexual orientation and behavior enhances the ability to render optimal patient care in health as well as in illness. In the case of the homosexual patient this is especially true, since unrecognized homosexuality by the physician or the patient's reluctance to report his or her sexual orientation and behavior can lead to failure to screen, diagnose, or treat important medical problems. With the help of the gay and lesbian community and through a cooperative effort between physician and the homosexual patient effective progress can be made in treating the medical needs of this particular segment of the population; (2) is committed to taking a leadership role in: (a) educating physicians on the current state of research in and knowledge of homosexuality and the need to take an adequate sexual history; these efforts should start in medical school, but must also be a part of continuing medical education; (b) educating physicians to recognize the physical and psychological needs of their homosexual patients; (c) encouraging the development of educational programs for homosexuals to acquaint them with the diseases for which they are at risk; (d) encouraging physicians to seek out local or national experts in the health care needs of gay men and lesbians so that all physicians will achieve a better understanding of the medical needs of this population; and (e) working with the gay and lesbian community to offer physicians the opportunity to better understand the medical needs of homosexual and bisexual patients; and (3) opposes, the use of "reparative" or "conversion" therapy that is based upon the assumption that homosexuality per se is a mental disorder or based upon the a priori assumption that the patient should change his/her homosexual orientation. (CSA Rep. C, I-81; Reaffirmed: CLRPD Rep. F, I-91; CSA Rep. 8 - I-94; Appended: Res. 506, A-00)