A first(?) thread on 2008: McCain,Giuliani & the Republicans

ican, You are an hopeless ignoramous; waterboarding is torture under international laws.

Exactly who kept track of all the statements George Washington made?

I'm sure Martha a) followed George to all the places he traveled to, b) kept pad and pen ready to write every statement he made, and c) knew how truthful all his contemporary and subsequent politicians were/are.

cicerone imposter wrote:

I'm sure Martha a) followed George to all the places he traveled to, b) kept pad and pen ready to write every statement he made, and c) knew how truthful all his contemporary and subsequent politicians were/are.

Excellent!

Is that another lie? Betcha you ain't sure of anything you post ... some of which might even be true!

The Anti-Lobbyist, Advised by Lobbyists

By Michael D. Shear and Jeffrey H. Birnbaum
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, February 22, 2008; A01

For years, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) has railed against lobbyists and the influence of "special interests" in Washington, touting on his campaign Web site his fight against "the 'revolving door' by which lawmakers and other influential officials leave their posts and become lobbyists for the special interests they have aided."

But when McCain huddled with his closest advisers at his rustic Arizona cabin last weekend to map out his presidential campaign, virtually every one was part of the Washington lobbying culture he has long decried. His campaign manager, Rick Davis, co-founded a lobbying firm whose clients have included Verizon and SBC Telecommunications. His chief political adviser, Charles R. Black Jr., is chairman of one of Washington's lobbying powerhouses, BKSH and Associates, which has represented AT&T, Alcoa, JPMorgan and U.S. Airways.

Senior advisers Steve Schmidt and Mark McKinnon work for firms that have lobbied for Land O' Lakes, UST Public Affairs, Dell and Fannie Mae.

McCain's relationship with lobbyists became an issue this week after it was reported that his aides asked Vicki Iseman, a telecom lobbyist, to distance herself from his 2000 presidential campaign because it would threaten McCain's reputation for independence. An angry and defiant McCain denounced the stories yesterday, declaring: "At no time have I ever done anything that would betray the public trust."

Even before McCain finished his news conference, uber-lobbyist Black made the rounds of television networks to defend McCain against charges that he has been tainted by his relationship with a lobbyist. Black's current clients include General Motors, United Technologies, JPMorgan and AT&T.

Black said he is still being paid by his firm and does work for clients in his "spare time," recusing himself from lobbying McCain: "I not only do not lobby him [McCain], but if an issue comes up that I have a client on, I will tell him that and stay out of the discussion."

John McCain .52. ROLFLMO

ican, You are a hopeless numbskull.

cicerone imposter wrote:

ican, You are a hopeless numbskull.

ON A SCALE 0=LEAST FREQUENT LIAR TO 100=MOST FREQUENT LIAR:

Cicerone Imposter = 99.933

Hillary Clinton = 92.93

Barack Obama = 91.93

John McCain = 52.93

George Washington = 0.09200[

ican711nm wrote:

cicerone imposter wrote:

ican, You are a hopeless numbskull.

ON A SCALE 0=LEAST FREQUENT LIAR TO 100=MOST FREQUENT LIAR:

Cicerone Imposter = 99.933

Hillary Clinton = 92.93

Barack Obama = 91.93

John McCain = 52.93

George Washington = 0.09200[

Pathetic, what are you, a child?

Cycloptichorn

Top McCain Adviser Says He Does Much Of His Lobbying From Aboard Straight Talk Express!
By Greg Sargent - February 22, 2008, 5:50PM

This is pretty great. Today's Washington Post piece all about the fact that John McCain is surrounded by lobbyists on his campaign has gotten lots of attention today. It's key context for understanding the big Times story yesterday about his allegedly improper relationship with that female lobbyist, as well as his constant railing against lobbyists and "special interests."

But the piece has a lovely and very revealing little nugget buried in it that has passed unnoticed. It turns out that one of McCain's top advisers, lobbyist Charlie Black, does lots of his lobbying from the Straight Talk Express. From aboard the bus itself...

Of all the lobbyists involved in the McCain campaign, the most prominent is Black...even as Black provides a private voice and a public face for McCain, he also leads his lobbying firm, which offers corporate interests and foreign governments the promise of access to the most powerful lawmakers. Some of those companies have interests before the Senate and, in particular, the Commerce Committee, of which McCain is a member.

Black said he does a lot of his work by telephone from McCain's Straight Talk Express bus.

The snark fails...

okie, Why do the likes of you, including mm, try to put words into our posts that were never suggsted or intended? You guys are a bore. If you need clarity, just ask, for cry'n out loud.

mm seems to miss the simplest of concepts; one of the reasons I hate even responding to his query.

ican, You are a hopeless numbskull.