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A first(?) thread on 2008: McCain,Giuliani & the Republicans

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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 21 Feb, 2008 10:21 am
sozobe wrote:
'Twas Bill Bennett evidently. This was what I remember seeing just before "Tojo":

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Bill Bennett, the conservative talk show host and CNN commentator, made an interesting point on CNN this morning, a point you'll likely be hearing a lot more of for some time.

In reacting to the New York Times's story on Sen. John McCain and the lobbyist Vicki Iseman, Bennett said: "The New York Times has done something for John McCain he couldn't do for himself," by rallying the conservative base behind the senator from Arizona.


http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/mccain_could_be_helped_by_ny_t.html


Yes. This might be a consequence.

On the point of hypocrisy, I wonder if that base which the Virtue Czar refers to will be happy with an adulterer and adultress as their standard-bearers.
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okie
 
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Reply Thu 21 Feb, 2008 10:22 am
Yep, just read the New York Times and anyone can know what not to believe. Pretty simple.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 21 Feb, 2008 10:26 am
okie wrote:
Yep, just read the New York Times and anyone can know what not to believe. Pretty simple.


Nice that you've caught on.

I guess you could read the Washington Post or TNR as well, they all carried stories about this. Oh, and Howard Kurtz. And the today show sez they knew about it. Apparently it was what is known as a 'open secret.'

Cycloptichorn
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 21 Feb, 2008 10:44 am
okie wrote:
Yep, just read the New York Times and anyone can know what not to believe. Pretty simple.


Would ya prefer Drudge. He wrote about it in December.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 21 Feb, 2008 11:15 am
Yglesias has lots more on the McCain/lobbyist point...
http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 21 Feb, 2008 11:17 am
We've discussed Republican election strategies. Might as well be fair...
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Democratic thinkers ponder how to redefine McCain
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/28212.html
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 21 Feb, 2008 11:23 am
God Almighty.

From Bay Buchanan on CNN yesterday...

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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 21 Feb, 2008 11:26 am
blatham wrote:
God Almighty.

From Bay Buchanan on CNN yesterday...

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Is she out of her mind!?!??!!?

Where does she think the current Mrs. McCain came from?

jeez

Cycloptichorn
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 21 Feb, 2008 11:27 am
TNR, who were also working on this story...
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=8b7675e4-36de-43f5-afdd-2a2cd2b96a24
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 21 Feb, 2008 11:37 am
McCain may not even be on the ballot in Indiana!

http://www.blueindiana.net/showDiary.do?diaryId=2020

Cycloptichorn
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 21 Feb, 2008 11:44 am
Cyclo, It really doesn't matter, does it?
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Thomas
 
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Reply Thu 21 Feb, 2008 01:24 pm
Stupid Foreignervanian question to the Americans in this thread: Why is it that thinly sourced allegations of McCain sleeping with a lobbyist are a big ethical deal, when his "bo, bo, bomb bomb Iran" doesn't even rise to the level of a tiny ethical deal?

Talk about weird priorities ....

Americans ....
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Thu 21 Feb, 2008 01:30 pm
Thomas wrote:
Stupid Foreignervanian question to the Americans in this thread: Why is it that thinly sourced allegations of McCain sleeping with a lobbyist are a big ethical deal, when his "bo, bo, bomb bomb Iran" doesn't even rise to the level of a tiny ethical deal?

Talk about weird priorities ....

Americans ....


Because his "bo, bo, bomb bomb Iran" are actually the lyrics to a very popular song from the early 1980's.
Since when has it been unethical to sing part of a song?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 21 Feb, 2008 01:36 pm
mysteryman wrote:
Because his "bo, bo, bomb bomb Iran" are actually the lyrics to a very popular song from the early 1980's.


Really? I'd thought he sang it to the tune of Barbara Ann.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 21 Feb, 2008 01:36 pm
Well, no, "Ba ba ba Barbara Ann..." were the lyrics (and from further back than the 80's). He changed things up a bit.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Thu 21 Feb, 2008 01:47 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
Because his "bo, bo, bomb bomb Iran" are actually the lyrics to a very popular song from the early 1980's.


Really? I'd thought he sang it to the tune of Barbara Ann.


He did.
During the Iranian Hostage Crisis, when Jimmy Carter was President, a group from New Orleans named "Vince Vance and the Valiants" recorded a song called "Bomb Iran".
It was done to the tune of the Beach Boys hit BarbraAnn, and was recorded in 1980 or 81.

http://vincevance.com/new/facts.html

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Vince Vance & the Valiants has recorded 22 singles, 11 albums of which two are number one hits: Bomb Iran of 1980-81, written during the Hostage Crisis, and All I Want for Christmas is You of 1989-2005, the number one country Christmas song and the most-requested song at Christmas each of those years.


So, McCain may have exhibited poor taste when he sang the lyrics, but thats all it was.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Thu 21 Feb, 2008 01:49 pm
sozobe wrote:
Well, no, "Ba ba ba Barbara Ann..." were the lyrics (and from further back than the 80's). He changed things up a bit.


I know the Beach Boys tune was older then the 1980's, I was talking about the Vince Vance tune.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 21 Feb, 2008 01:49 pm
He even names the Beach Boys before singing

http://i29.tinypic.com/30bioed.jpg
Bomb bomb bomb Irán by www.panedu.es via YouTube

(Actually, the Beach Boys song was a [released in 1965] cover version of an original 1961 song, by performed by The Regents.)
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 21 Feb, 2008 01:50 pm
mysteryman wrote:
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I know the Beach Boys tune was older then the 1980's, I was talking about the Vince Vance tune.


See video above.

Besides:
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The group is also known for its 1980 song titled "Bomb Iran", which was recorded in the midst of the Iranian hostage crisis and sung to the tune of "Barbara Ann" by The Beach Boys and The Regents. Later, in 2003, the group recorded a song called "Bomb Iraq", sung to the tune of "Yakety Yak" and supporting the imminent Iraq war.
Wikipedia
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Advocate
 
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Reply Thu 21 Feb, 2008 02:02 pm
Looking at McC, whose face resembles a person who has been severely beaten physically, it is hard to imagine that he had a sexual relationship with the lobbyist. But I guess it is possible that the latter was desperate to curry favor with McC to benefit her clients.
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