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A first(?) thread on 2008: McCain,Giuliani & the Republicans

 
 
blatham
 
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Reply Sat 9 Feb, 2008 12:58 pm
Another yummy one from Gail Collins
Quote:
Losing Mitt Romney from the presidential race is not just a matter of another Republican biting the dust. It's all those dozens and dozens of future incarnations that we may never have a chance to meet. I was hoping that someday we'd get a Libertarian Mitt, or maybe a cowboy.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/09/opinion/09collins.html?hp
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 9 Feb, 2008 01:29 pm
Quote:
David Limbaugh

Critics of McCain's Critics Want Leftward Tilt

Friday, February 8, 2008 8:10 AM

By: David Limbaugh

Isn't it ironic that GOP moderates are harshly criticizing GOP conservatives for being harshly critical of GOP presidential front-runner John McCain?

What mortal sins have conservative McCain critics committed? Oh, they've stuck to their conservative principles, fighting for the values they believe in and refusing, prematurely, to surrender. What good would they be if they so readily threw in the towel of defeat?
http://www.newsmax.com/limbaugh/john_mccain_critics/2008/02/08/71164.html
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 9 Feb, 2008 01:30 pm
Quote:
Ann Coulter Speaks At CPAC
Posted by: Jonathan Garthwaite at 10:25 PM
Ann Coulter wasn't invited to CPAC this year but she came to CPAC anyway and gave a speech just down the hallway from the ballroom where John McCain spoke Thursday. The speech was only open to 1000 attendees but you can watch it here on Townhall.com.
I guess we'll name this speech, "Ann Coulter's 2008 not-at-CPAC-CPAC speech."

see speech here http://www.townhall.com/blog/g/b9769a28-f1fa-4ee9-af17-c9955af1a2e5
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 9 Feb, 2008 01:37 pm
Best line from the portion of this speech I could stand to watch...

Quote:
Conniving is not Republican's strong point. Honor is the Republicans' strong point.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 9 Feb, 2008 01:53 pm
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In a column Wednesday in the Washington Times, conservative columnist Tony Blankley suggests that he's considering whether it might not be better for the Republican Party's future if conservatives stayed at home this fall instead of voting for McCain. Blankley states that hardcore conservatives gained dominance over the Republican Party in the wake of Barry Goldwater's doomed 1964 presidential bid. They won the future by losing the present, and by refusing to give in to the more moderate members of their party, such as George Romney, Mitt's father. Blankley asks, "If conservatives sit on our hands this November as moderates did 44 years ago, will we marginalize ourselves within the party (as the old Romney moderates did)? Or will we be saving the party for the grand old cause?" While Blankley is not ready just yet to commit to voter suicide, apparently some other Republicans are.
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/?last_story=/politics/war_room/2008/02/08/clinton_returns/
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 9 Feb, 2008 02:16 pm
Quote:
What would President McCain's foreign policy be?
By Warren P. Strobel | McClatchy Newspapers


http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/27096.html
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okie
 
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Reply Sat 9 Feb, 2008 02:18 pm
blatham wrote:
Quote:
David Limbaugh

Critics of McCain's Critics Want Leftward Tilt

Friday, February 8, 2008 8:10 AM

By: David Limbaugh

Isn't it ironic that GOP moderates are harshly criticizing GOP conservatives for being harshly critical of GOP presidential front-runner John McCain?

What mortal sins have conservative McCain critics committed? Oh, they've stuck to their conservative principles, fighting for the values they believe in and refusing, prematurely, to surrender. What good would they be if they so readily threw in the towel of defeat?
http://www.newsmax.com/limbaugh/john_mccain_critics/2008/02/08/71164.html

I would agree with David Limbaugh, blatham, he makes a good logical and common sense analysis of it. David is the not so bombastic brother of Rush Limbaugh of course. McCain does not represent the heart and soul of the Republican party, and certainly not conservatives, as he sort of claims now, not even close, and it remains to be seen if he is an anomoly of history or if he forever changes the structure of his party.

I do fear that society is moving left, and if one does not believe it, witness the hoards of mindless worshipers of Obama, of whom I doubt 10% of them could give you any significant information on what Obama actually believes or one thing that he has actually accomplished as a senator of his state or the country. It is a fad, but fads win elections.

I do take heart from my recollection that the press painted Barry Goldwater and his politics as a relic of history, and when Reagan came on the scene, the press dismissed him at first. But we see what happened. Conservatism is simply common sense, and we just need someone that can articulate it and explain it, and someone with leadership qualities. Governor Romney comes the closest that I've seen in a while, and he will be around a while, we will see more of him.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 9 Feb, 2008 02:33 pm
Quote:
Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno."


- Sen. John McCain, speaking to a Republican dinner, June 1998.

Classy.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sat 9 Feb, 2008 02:39 pm
blatham wrote:
Another yummy one from Gail Collins
Quote:
Losing Mitt Romney from the presidential race is not just a matter of another Republican biting the dust. It's all those dozens and dozens of future incarnations that we may never have a chance to meet. I was hoping that someday we'd get a Libertarian Mitt, or maybe a cowboy.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/09/opinion/09collins.html?hp


Laughing
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maporsche
 
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Reply Sat 9 Feb, 2008 02:46 pm
McCain in 08!

Just sent the man $25.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Sat 9 Feb, 2008 03:01 pm
blatham wrote:


- Sen. John McCain, speaking to a Republican dinner, June 1998.

Classy.


You really need to source that, Blatham.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 9 Feb, 2008 03:10 pm
realjohnboy wrote:
blatham wrote:


- Sen. John McCain, speaking to a Republican dinner, June 1998.

Classy.


You really need to source that, Blatham.


Indeed.
http://www.salon.com/news/1998/06/25newsb.html



Quote:
Arizona Republic's Murphy reports, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)
"formally apologized" to Pres. Clinton on 6/12 "for a crass joke
he made earlier in the week at the expense of" Hillary Rodham
Clinton, Chelsea Clinton, and AG Janet Reno. McCain spokesperson
Nancy Ives "said a letter of apology had been hand-delivered to
the" WH. Ives "would not repeat the joke that landed McCain in
hot water": "I don't feel comfortable telling you. He feels
awful, and he regrets that he said it ... I just can't repeat
it."
http://blogs.trb.com/news/local/longisland/politics/blog/2008/02/past_mccains_old_chelsea_joke.html
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Sat 9 Feb, 2008 03:22 pm
Thank you, Blatham. I wasn't criticizing you or your posting, but it is important to ensure that there be legitimate (however we define that) sources for stories like that one.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 9 Feb, 2008 03:28 pm
realjohnboy wrote:
Thank you, Blatham. I wasn't criticizing you or your posting, but it is important to ensure that there be legitimate (however we define that) sources for stories like that one.


You are absolutely correct. Thanks for keeping me honest.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 9 Feb, 2008 04:10 pm
Huckavictory in Kansas.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sat 9 Feb, 2008 04:16 pm
Wow, that was quick.

If they're projecting it already it must be a big margin.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Sat 9 Feb, 2008 04:29 pm
Huckabee gets 60% in the GOP KS caucus. I really thought there would be folks jumping on the McCain bandwagon.
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okie
 
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Reply Sat 9 Feb, 2008 04:40 pm
realjohnboy wrote:
Huckabee gets 60% in the GOP KS caucus. I really thought there would be folks jumping on the McCain bandwagon.

I am not surprised at all. Not at your thought, but that folks aren't jumping on the so-called bandwagon. You have to remember McCain has only gotten where he is by winning a plurality, not a majority.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Sat 9 Feb, 2008 04:49 pm
Who then will you vote for okie? Do either Hillary or Obama offer better alternatives for you?
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Sat 9 Feb, 2008 04:52 pm
Okie: Point noted. I readily concede that I know little about GOP politics in KS. It just seemed surprising to me. Any predictions on NB?
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