A first(?) thread on 2008: McCain,Giuliani & the Republicans

That's the thing... remaining convincing. I was reading something earlier about how McCain just doesn't do so well as a front-runner. He gets grumpy, says something off-script, alienates people. That's part of what I find appealing about him actually, but I'm interested in seeing how he plays out.

For now, polls show Obama beating him, Hillary not so much.

"He hit it out of the park"

For now, polls show Obama beating him (McCain), Hillary not so much.

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"He hit it out of the park"

Gad. Apparently your park is ten yards deep. What he did was merely splice a series of necessary doctrinaire talking points to satisfy the raw meat carnivores in that crowd. Real straight-talking maverick, Mr. McCain.

What are we going to see now? War talk. Scare the people strategy, pumped up by the WH PR apparatus, and pushed quite relentlessly by the rightwing media. Absolutely predictable.

Libertarian Party sends condolences to the Republican National Committee



With the rise of John McCain, LP offers sympathy for the death of small-government values within the GOP

Washington, D.C. - Following a solid McCain victory in the Super Tuesday primaries, the Libertarian Party has sent Republican headquarters a funeral wreath marking the death of limited-government values within the Republican Party. The wreath was hand-delivered to the D.C. offices of the Republican National Committee. "We simply felt the need to express our heartfelt sympathy for the Republican Party as they undergo this tough time within their party," says Libertarian Party National Media Coordinator Andrew Davis, who delivered the wreath.

"Given that it has become readily apparent that Senator McCain will soon be the presidential nominee for the Republican Party," reads a card that accompanied the wreath addressed to RNC Chairman Mike Duncan, "we, the staff of the Libertarian National Committee, send our condolences to you upon the death of small-government principles within the GOP."

The note continues:

Libertarians encourage competition within both the free-market and politics. Unfortunately, with the rise of John McCain and the big-spending practices of the Bush administration, the two-party system has emerged as representing only one philosophy - big-government liberalism.

With your loss, the Libertarian Party will continue to move forward to represent those American patriots who still believe in smaller government, lower taxes and more individual freedom.

"McCain's Super Tuesday win marks the death of limited government values within the Republican Party, which had struggled with its principles throughout the Bush administration," says Shane Cory, executive director of the Libertarian Party. "It is a day of mourning for the few remaining small-government Republicans."

For pictures of the wreath and its delivery to the RNC headquarters see below. For more information and interview requests, please call Andrew Davis at (202) 333-0008 during normal business hours, or at (202) 731-0002 during any other time.

The Libertarian Party is America's third largest political party, founded in 1971 as an alternative to the two main political parties. You can find more information on the Libertarian Party by visiting www.lp.org. The Libertarian Party proudly stands for smaller government, lower taxes and more freedom.

Go ahead and laugh, cyclops, but what about the impending train wreck with Clinton and Obama on collision course? This will be interesting to watch. Ms. Clinton is not going to give up easy. I think she will pull out all the stops.

george wrote:

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I believe that Huckabee is merely yet another Arkansas huckster; this time merely with a different veneer from the last one (Baptist minister vs Georgetown, Yale & Cambridge). We have had one: we don't need another. I hope he fades very quickly.

You latte drinking, elitist San Francisco/New York intellectual snobs! You think you are sooooo much better than the simple, honest, hardworking real Americans of the heartland...the people who made America...the people who's values shaped this great nation...people like George Bush and Ronald Reagan. I hope al quaeda comes to knock on your door when you order up your French wine and your perverted sexual aids and your all-salad pizza.

george wrote:

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I believe that Huckabee is merely yet another Arkansas huckster; this time merely with a different veneer from the last one (Baptist minister vs Georgetown, Yale & Cambridge). We have had one: we don't need another. I hope he fades very quickly.

You latte drinking, elitist San Francisco/New York intellectual snobs! You think you are sooooo much better than the simple, honest, hardworking real Americans of the heartland...the people who made America...the people who's values shaped this great nation...people like George Bush and Ronald Reagan. I hope al quaeda comes to knock on your door when you order up your French wine and your perverted sexual aids and your all-salad pizza.

Sure, the pundits we're saying that he had an uphill battle, and that McCain's position was pretty solid, but I didn't hear any of them say Romney had no chance [..]

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Sure, the pundits we're saying that he had an uphill battle, and that McCain's position was pretty solid, but I didn't hear any of them say Romney had no chance [..]

I did. Specifically, I saw an article doing the simple math. Cant find it back, but I can redo the math.

A Republican candidate needs 1,191 delegates to win the nomination.

McCain already has 721.

Romney has 278. So he would have needed to win another 913.

But there are only some 1,165 at stake still...

In short, Romney would have needed to win 78% of all delegates in the upcoming primaries. Keeping McCain and Huckabee down to a combined 22%.

Rright..

So yes, he had no chance, as the smarter commentators figured out. It wasnt just "an uphill battle" he faced, it was virtually a mathematical impossibility.

The "Radio Conservatives rear action" may well still "have heated up further," yeah, but no, there was no way anymore he could have gotten at all close, let alone "closer still" (whatever that means regarding a guy who's already trailing almost 1:3 in delegates).

Closer still - meaning winning more delegates and being closer to the magic number required

What are we going to see now? War talk. Scare the people strategy, pumped up by the WH PR apparatus, and pushed quite relentlessly by the rightwing media. Absolutely predictable.

Ken Mehlman, a former political director under Mr. Bush who managed his re-election campaign and went on to lead the Republican National Committee, announced his endorsement of Mr. McCain on Thursday evening. Mr. Bush's political guru, Karl Rove, said on Friday that he had contributed $2,300 to the senator's campaign, confirming a report first published by Time magazine's blog, The Page.