Is this board anti-muslim?

ENDYMION wrote:

snood wrote:

I also think some people are so virulent in their criticism of religion and insulting towards religious people because they have anger issues, and religion and religious people are convenient targets.

Snood, how can you say that with that face?

People don't call nuns sheetheads do they?

raghead, towelhead, - these are racist terms. And anti-muslim feeling is everywhere, even in countries such as mine, where religion is less of an issue.

They call nuns penguins. There's a word for everyone.

Signed

Cracker Honkey

ENDYMION wrote:

ok. but I'm asking to talk to someone about islamic art, culture, history (which obviously involves the religion of Islam) without debate about God.

I mean, I'd like to talk about going to a mosque without talking about why.
Because I'm honestly interested in things like the painting from Manafi al-Hayawan (The usefulness of Animals) by Abu Sa'id Ubaud Allah ibn Bakhtishu from Iran
or the music of Mukhtar And Al-Saadi (Iraq)

I believe that the most beautiful arcitecture stands in the middle east and I'd also like some recipe ideas as I'm into spicy, north African food.

There. No mention of God.

Well then, you don't want to talk about Islam. You want to have a discussion about Middle Eastern Culture Excluding Islam.

Lash wrote:

ENDYMION wrote:

snood wrote:

I also think some people are so virulent in their criticism of religion and insulting towards religious people because they have anger issues, and religion and religious people are convenient targets.

Snood, how can you say that with that face?

People don't call nuns sheetheads do they?

raghead, towelhead, - these are racist terms. And anti-muslim feeling is everywhere, even in countries such as mine, where religion is less of an issue.

They call nuns penguins. There's a word for everyone.

Signed

Cracker Honkey

Those whom work at Muesums are called penguins.

I am sure that most everyone that is posting in this thread has at least some inkling of what terms might be offensive to others. Some will use those terms even though they realize they might offend others and some won't. This is just the way it is.

So calling someone a term, which they know may offend another and obviously, doesn't care enough to not do it, is completely unnecessary and unacceptable IMO.

Thomas wrote:

Lash wrote:

I don't know of any anti-Muslims here.

I've seen a few who call them towelheads. Do they count?

If they are referring to the entire Muslim population, I would think they may count.

If they used ANY word to intentionally demean an entire population of ANY group, that constitutes MY opinion of anti-somebody.

I don't subcribe to the Great Terminology Embargo, as I'm one of the silly ones, who actually thinks the meaning behind a word is what is the best indicator of a person's sentiment. On occasion, a term DOES reflect a racial or ethnic hatred. In MY case, towelhead was used against terrorists, which I said. I used several other words, as well. However, if you'd like to pretend that makes me a racist, you may with my blessings.

I am a Christian..............I am not, however, a woman.

Lash wrote:

Thomas wrote:

Lash wrote:

I don't know of any anti-Muslims here.

I've seen a few who call them towelheads. Do they count?

If they are referring to the entire Muslim population, I would think they may count.

If they used ANY word to intentionally demean an entire population of ANY group, that constitutes MY opinion of anti-somebody.

I don't subcribe to the Great Terminology Embargo, as I'm one of the silly ones, who actually thinks the meaning behind a word is what is the best indicator of a person's sentiment. On occasion, a term DOES reflect a racial or ethnic hatred. In MY case, towelhead was used against terrorists, which I said. I used several other words, as well. However, if you'd like to pretend that makes me a racist, you may with my blessings.

OK, the principle - correct me if I'm wrong - the principle behind this argument seems to be that no word should by itself be beyond the pale; and you can therefore use words of the raghead variety as long as you dont intend to demean an entire population group with it. If you intended to demean the entire population group in question, it would be (a variety of) racist, but if you use it to describe particular subsets or individuals it's OK.

Right?

Of course, according to the same logic, I could go around here calling people or groups of people, if not "nigger" (which has a rather unique status), then at least "coon", say - just so long as I would be able to clarify afterward that I didnt mean to be talking about all blacks, of course. Just those darned <example of specific reprehensible group of black people>, those be coons! Why should I not be allowed to use that word?

But would that really be where it's at? I mean, would any of you appreciate that, and not consider it wrong or unduly offensive?

and you will probably never know the pleasure of either