Bush supporters' aftermath thread II

I'm left to ask why has it taken this long for Lanny Davis to figure it out, but I'm even more surprised he would admit that he has. The complete Clinton apologist, Lanny Davis, apparently can't find it in himself to apologize for his fellow liberals. There may be hope for the man.

I suspect that Davis and Lieberman are joined at the hip. BTW, are there reports from outside the voting booth regarding the voting trend for Lieberman?

Lieberman keeps on saying that he is not Bush. However, he is effectively, at least, a moderate Republican.

Or, hope for Democrats in general. (Not the diehard radicals that post here, but those that actually have a conscience).

Actually, after thinking about this more, I think it is an insult to conservatives, as Davis apparently thinks conservatism is driven by hate, when in fact it is his henchmen on the left. There may be a few people on the fringes of the right that are driven by hate, but it does not infect the mainstream of conservatism, as it has infected the mainstream of the liberal movement in America.

SS says: "Or, hope for Democrats in general. (Not the diehard radicals that post here, but those that actually have a conscience)."

Do Republicans even know the meaning of the word "conscience?" They held hostage a minimum-wage bill to a reduction in the estate tax.

Oh, please. 90% of economists don't want the minimum wage raised and as far as the so-called "estate tax" goes, I can think of no good reason why I, or any other citizen, should agree to give the government a financial interest in my demise.

90% of economists! You joke!

Regarding the estate tax, be sure to look out for Teresa Heinz and Paris Hilton, not to mention the entire plutocracy.

90% of economists? I don't question the questionability of minimum wages but I certainly question your statement of "90% of economists" is this just another statistic pulled out off someone's ass?

Economists Supporting Increase in Minimum Wage
Frank Ackerman Global Development and Environment Institute - Tufts University ❚ Irma Adelman University of California - Berkeley ❚ Randy Albelda
University of Massachusetts - Boston ❚ Robert J. Alexander Rutgers University ❚ Marcus Alexis Northwestern University ❚ Sylvia Allegretto Economic
Policy Institute ❚ Gar Alperovitz University of Maryland - College Park ❚ Teresa L. Amott Gettysburg College ❚ Alice Amsden Massachusetts Institute of
Technology ❚ Bernard E. Anderson University of Pennsylvania ❚ Robert M. Anderson University of California - Berkeley ❚ Eileen Appelbaum Rutgers
University ❚ Robert K. Arnold Institute of Regional and Urban Studies ❚ David D. Arsen Michigan State University ❚ Enid Arvidson University of Texas -
Arlington ❚ Michael Ash University of Massachusetts ❚ Glen Atkinson University of Nevada - Reno ❚ Alice Audie-Figueroa United Automobile Workers
❚ Robert Axtell The Brookings Institution and Middlebury College ❚ M.V. Lee Badgett University of Massachusetts ❚ Ron Baiman University of Illinois -
Chicago ❚ Asatar Bair City College of San Francisco ❚ Dean Baker Center for Economic and Policy Research ❚ Benjamin Balak Rollins College ❚ Stephen E.
Baldwin KRA Corporation and George Washington University ❚ Erol Balkan Hamilton College ❚ Laurence M. Ball Johns Hopkins University ❚ Brad Barham
University of Wisconsin - Madison ❚ Drucilla K. Barker Hollins University ❚ David Barkin Universidad Autonoma Metropolitana -Xochimilco ❚ Christopher
Barrett Cornell University ❚ Timothy J. Bartik W.E. Upjohn Institute for Employment Research ❚ Laurie J. Bassi McBassi & Company ❚ Bradley W. Bateman
Grinnell College ❚ Francis M. Bator Harvard University ❚ Sandy Baum Skidmore College ❚ William J. Baumol† New York University ❚ Steve Beckman United
Automobile Workers ❚ Stephen H. Bell Urban Institute ❚ Dale L. Belman Michigan State University ❚ Michael H. Belzer Wayne State University ❚ Lourdes
Beneria Cornell University ❚ Barbara R. Bergmann American University and University of Maryland ❚ Eli Berman University of California - San Diego
❚ Jared Bernstein Economic Policy Institute ❚ Michael Best University of Massachusetts - Lowell ❚ Charles L. Betsey Howard University ❚ David M. Betson
University of Notre Dame ❚ Carole Biewener Simmons College ❚ Sherrilyn Billger Illinois State University ❚ Melissa Binder University of New Mexico
❚ L. Josh Bivens Economic Policy Institute ❚ Stanley W. Black University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill ❚ Margaret Blair Vanderbilt University Law School
❚ Robert Blecker American University ❚ Alan S. Blinder Princeton University ❚ Barry Bluestone Northeastern University ❚ Peter Bohmer The Evergreen
State College ❚ Roger Bolton Williams College ❚ James F. Booker Siena College ❚ Heather Boushey Center for Economic and Policy Research ❚ Samuel
Bowles Santa Fe Institute ❚ James K. Boyce University of Massachusetts - Amherst ❚ Ralph Bradburd Williams College ❚ Katharine Bradbury ❚ Gerard
Bradley New Mexico Department of Labor ❚ Mark D. Brenner University of Massachusetts ❚ Vernon M. Briggs, Jr. Cornell University ❚ Daniel W. Bromley
University of Wisconsin ❚ Eileen L. Brooks University of California - Santa Cruz ❚ Annette N. Brown BearingPoint, Inc. ❚ Christopher Brown Arkansas State
University ❚ Clair Brown University of California - Berkeley ❚ Michael Brun Illinois State University ❚ Neil H. Buchanan Rutgers School of Law ❚ Robert
Buchele Smith College ❚ Mary A. Burke Florida State University ❚ Paul G. Burkett Indiana State University ❚ Stephen V. Burks University of Minnesota -
Morris ❚ Joyce Burnette Wabash College ❚ Gary Burtless The Brookings Institution ❚ Dallas Burtraw Resources for the Future ❚ Paul D. Bush California
State University - Fresno ❚ Antonio Callari Franklin and Marshall College ❚ James Campen University of Massachusetts - Boston ❚ Maria Cancian
University of Wisconsin - Madison ❚ Paul Cantor Norwalk Community College ❚ Peter Cappelli University of Pennsylvania ❚ Anthony P. Carnevale National
Center on Education and the Economy ❚ Jeffrey P. Carpenter Middlebury College ❚ Françoise Carré University of Massachusetts - Boston ❚ Michael J.
Carter University of Massachusetts - Lowell ❚ Susan B. Carter University of California - Riverside ❚ John Carvellas Saint Michael's College ❚ Karl E. Case
Wellesley College ❚ Jeff Chapman Economic Policy Institute ❚ John Dennis Chasse State University of New York - Brockport ❚ Howard Chernick Hunter
College and the Graduate Center, City University of New York ❚ Robert Cherry Brooklyn College - City University of New York ❚ Lawrence Chimerine
Radnor International Consulting, Inc. ❚ Charles R. Chittle Bowling Green State University ❚ Kimberly Christensen State University of New York - Purchase
❚ Paul P. Christensen Hofstra University ❚ Richard D. Coe New College of Florida ❚ Robert M. Coen Northwestern University ❚ Steve Cohn Knox College
❚ David C. Cole Harvard Institute for International Development ❚ Helen Connolly Northeastern University ❚ John E. Connor Villanova University ❚ Patrick
Conway University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill ❚ James V. Cornehls University of Texas - Arlington ❚ David Crary Eastern Michigan University ❚ Vincent
Crawford University of California - San Diego ❚ James Crotty University of Massachusetts ❚ Stephen Cullenberg University of California - Riverside ❚ James
Cypher California State University - Fresno ❚ Anita Dancs National Priorities Project ❚ Nasser Daneshvary University of Nevada - Las Vegas ❚ David M.
Danning Massachusetts Teachers Association ❚ Sheldon Danziger University of Michigan ❚ Jane D'Arista New School University ❚ Paul A. David Stanford
University ❚ Sidney Davidson University of Chicago ❚ John B. Davis Marquette University and University of Amsterdam ❚ Charles W. de Seve American
Economics Group, Inc. ❚ Jayne Dean Wagner College ❚ Gregory E. DeFreitas Hofstra University ❚ Brad DeLong University of California - Berkeley ❚ James
G. Devine Loyola Marymount College ❚ Peter Diamond† Massachusetts Institute of Technology ❚ Ranjit Dighe State University of New York - Oswego
❚ Randall Dodd Financial Policy Forum ❚ Peter B. Doeringer Boston University ❚ Peter Dorman The Evergreen State College ❚ Robert Drago Pennsylvania
State University ❚ Laura Dresser University of Wisconsin - Madison ❚ Arindrajit Dube University of California - Berkeley ❚ Richard B. Du Boff Bryn Mawr
College ❚ Marie Duggan Keene State College ❚ Greg J. Duncan Northwestern University ❚ Steven Durlauf University of Wisconsin - Madison ❚ Donald H.
Dutkowsky Syracuse University ❚ Amitava K. Dutt University of Notre Dame ❚ M. Jan Dutta Rutgers University ❚ Gary Dymski University of California -
Riverside ❚ John A. Edgren Eastern Michigan University ❚ Barry Eichengreen University of California - Berkeley ❚ Bernard Elbaum University of California -
Santa Cruz ❚ Catherine S. Elliott New College of Florida ❚ Zohreh Emami Alverno College ❚ Richard W. England University of New Hampshire ❚ Ernie
Englander George Washington University ❚ Gerald Epstein University of Massachusetts - Amherst ❚ Sharon J. Erenburg Eastern Michigan University
❚ Christopher L. Erickson University of California - Los Angeles ❚ Timothy J. Essenburg Bethel University ❚ Susan L. Ettner University of California - Los
Angeles ❚ Linda Ewing United Automobile Workers ❚ Colleen Fahy Assumption College ❚ David Fairris University of California - Riverside ❚ Henry S.
Farber Princeton University ❚ Andrew Farrant Franklin and Marshall College ❚ Jeff Faux Economic Policy Institute ❚ Sasan Fayazmanesh California State
University - Fresno ❚ Steve Fazzari Washington University ❚ Rashi Fein Harvard Medical School ❚ Robert M. Feinberg American University ❚ Susan F. Feiner
University of Southern Maine ❚ David Felix Washington University ❚ Ronald F. Ferguson Harvard University ❚ William D. Ferguson Grinnell College ❚ Rudy
Fichtenbaum Wright State University ❚ Deborah M. Figart Richard Stockton College ❚ T. Aldrich Finegan Vanderbilt University ❚ Lydia Fischer United
Automobile Workers ❚ Albert Fishlow Columbia University ❚ John Fitzgerald Bowdoin College ❚ Sean Flaherty Franklin and Marshall College ❚ Maria S.
Floro American University ❚ Nancy Folbre University of Massachusetts ❚ Harold A. Forman United Food and Commercial Workers ❚ Mathew Forstater
University of Missouri - Kansas City ❚ Harriet Fraad ❚ Alan Frishman Hobart and William Smith Colleges ❚ Kevin Furey Chemeketa Community College
❚ James K. Galbraith University of Texas - Austin ❚ Monica Galizzi University of Massachusetts - Lowell ❚ Kevin P. Gallagher Boston University ❚ David
Gallo California State University - Chico ❚ Irwin Garfinkel Columbia University ❚ Deborah L. Garvey Santa Clara University ❚ Jonah B. Gelbach University
of Maryland ❚ Robley George Center for Study of Democratic Societies ❚ Christophre Georges Hamilton College ❚ Malcolm Getz Vanderbilt University
❚ Teresa Ghilarducci University of Notre Dame ❚ Lisa A. Giddings University of Wisconsin - La Crosse ❚ Richard J. Gilbert University of California -
Berkeley ❚ John I. Gilderbloom University of Louisville ❚ Herbert Gintis Santa Fe Institute and University of Massachusetts ❚ Amy Glasmeier Penn State
University ❚ Norman Glickman Rutgers University ❚ Robert Glover University of Texas - Austin ❚ Arthur S. Goldberger University of Wisconsin - Madison
❚ Lonnie Golden Penn State University - Abington College ❚ Debbie Goldman Communications Workers of America ❚ Steven M. Goldman University of
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S. Goodstein Lewis and Clark College ❚ Robert J. Gordon Northwestern University ❚ Peter Gottschalk Boston College ❚ Elise Gould Economic Policy
Institute ❚ Ulla Grapard Colgate University ❚ Daphne Greenwood University of Colorado - Colorado Springs ❚ Christopher Gunn Hobart and William Smith
Colleges ❚ Kwabena Gyimah-Brempong University of South Florida ❚ Joseph E. Harrington Johns Hopkins University ❚ Doug Harris Florida State
University ❚ Jonathan M. Harris Global Development and Environment Institute - Tufts University ❚ Martin Hart-Landsberg Lewis and Clark College
❚ Mitchell Harwitz State University of New York - Buffalo ❚ Robert Haveman University of Wisconsin - Madison ❚ F. Gregory Hayden University of
Nebraska - Lincoln ❚ Sue Headlee American University ❚ Carol E. Heim University of Massachusetts - Amherst ❚ James Heintz University of Massachusetts -
Amherst ❚ Paul A. Heise Lebanon Valley College ❚ Suzanne Helburn University of Colorado - Denver ❚ Susan Helper Case Western Reserve University
❚ John F. Henry California State University - Sacramento ❚ Edward Herman University of Pennsylvania ❚ Stephen Herzenberg Keystone Research Center
❚ Donald D. Hester University of Wisconsin - Madison ❚ Gillian Hewitson Franklin and Marshall College ❚ William Hildred Northern Arizona
University ❚ Marianne T. Hill Center for Policy Research and Planning ❚ Martha S. Hill University of Michigan ❚ Michael G. Hillard University of Southern
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❚ Karen C. Holden University of Wisconsin - Madison ❚ Harry Holzer Georgetown University ❚ Barbara Hopkins Wright State University ❚ Bobbie L. Horn
University of Tulsa ❚ Julie Hotchkiss Georgia State University ❚ Candace Howes Connecticut College ❚ Carl E. Hunt ❚ Richard W. Hurd Cornell University
❚ Saul H. Hymans University of Michigan ❚ Fred Inaba Washington State University ❚ Alan Isaac American University ❚ Jonathan Isham Middlebury College
❚ Michael Jacobs New York City Independent Budget Office ❚ Sanford M. Jacoby University of California - Los Angeles ❚ Kenneth P. Jameson University
of Utah ❚ Russell A. Janis University of Massachusetts - Amherst ❚ Elizabeth J. Jensen Hamilton College ❚ Pascale Joassart University of Massachusetts
❚ Jerome Joffe St. John's University ❚ Lawrence D. Jones University of British Columbia ❚ Robert Jones Skidmore College ❚ Bernard Jump Syracuse
University ❚ Fadhel Kaboub Simon's Rock College of Bard ❚ Alfred E. Kahn Cornell University ❚ Shulamit Kahn Boston University ❚ John Kane State
University of New York - Oswego ❚ Thomas J. Kane University of California - Los Angeles ❚ J.K. Kapler University of Massachusetts - Boston ❚ Thomas
Karier Eastern Washington University ❚ Victor Kasper Buffalo State College ❚ Sheila Kamerman Columbia University ❚ David E. Kaun University of
California - Santa Cruz ❚ Wells Keddie Rutgers University ❚ Peter B. Kenen Princeton University ❚ Daphne Kenyon D.A. Kenyon & Associates ❚ Kwan S.
Kim University of Notre Dame ❚ Marlene Kim University of Massachusetts - Boston ❚ Christopher T. King University of Texas - Austin ❚ Mary King Portland
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of Technology ❚ Tim Koechlin Vassar College ❚ Andrew I. Kohen James Madison University ❚ Krishna Kool University of Rio Grande ❚ Douglas Koritz
Buffalo State College ❚ Sherrie Koss Kossoudji University of Michigan ❚ Nicholas N. Kozlov Hofstra University ❚ Catherine Krause University of New Mexico
❚ Alan J. Krupnick Resources for the Future ❚ Douglas Kruse Rutgers University ❚ Helen F. Ladd Duke University ❚ Robert M. LaJeunesse State University
of New York - New Paltz ❚ Kevin Lang Boston University ❚ Glenn-Marie Lange The Earth Institute - Columbia University ❚ Catherine Langlois Georgetown
University ❚ Gary A. Latanich Arkansas State University ❚ Robert Z. Lawrence Harvard University ❚ William Lazonick University of Massachusetts - Lowell
and INSEAD ❚ Frederic S. Lee University of Missouri - Kansas City ❚ J. Paul Leigh University of California - Davis ❚ Nancey Green Leigh Georgia Institute
of Technology ❚ Charles L. Leven Washington University ❚ Charles Levenstein University of Massachusetts - Lowell ❚ Margaret C. Levenstein University
of Michigan ❚ Henry M. Levin Columbia University and Stanford University ❚ David I. Levine University of California - Berkeley ❚ Herbert S. Levine
University of Pennsylvania ❚ Mark Levinson UNITE HERE ❚ Mark Levitan Community Service Society of New York ❚ Stephen Levy Center for Continuing
Study of California Economy ❚ Arthur Lewbel Boston College ❚ James D. Likens Pomona College ❚ Edward J. Lincoln Council on Foreign Relations ❚ David
L. Lindauer Wellesley College ❚ Charles Lindblom Yale University ❚ Victor D. Lippit University of California - Riverside ❚ Mark C. Long University of
Washington ❚ Pamela Loprest The Urban Institute ❚ Richard Lotspeich Indiana State University ❚ Michael C. Lovell Wesleyan University ❚ Milton D. Lower
❚ Stephanie Luce Labor Center - University of Massachusetts ❚ Jens Ludwig Georgetown University ❚ Dan Luria Michigan Manufacturing Technology
Center ❚ Lisa M. Lynch Tufts University ❚ Robert Lynch Washington College ❚ Arthur MacEwan University of Massachusetts - Boston ❚ Hasan MacNeil
California State University - Chico ❚ Craig R. MacPhee University of Nebraska - Lincoln ❚ Janice F. Madden University of Pennsylvania ❚ Mark H. Maier
Glendale Community College ❚ Jay Mandle Colgate University ❚ Andrea Maneschi Vanderbilt University ❚ Dave E. Marcotte University of Maryland -
Baltimore County ❚ Stephen A. Marglin Harvard University ❚ Robert A. Margo Vanderbilt University ❚ Stephen V. Marks Pomona College ❚ Ann R.
Markusen University of Minnesota ❚ Ray Marshall University of Texas - Austin ❚ Jeffrey Martin ❚ Patrick L. Mason Florida State University ❚ Julie A.
Matthaei Wellesley College ❚ Peter H. Matthews Middlebury College ❚ Anne Mayhew University of Tennessee ❚ Alan K. McAdams Cornell University
❚ Elaine McCrate University of Vermont ❚ Richard McIntyre University of Rhode Island ❚ Charles W. McMillion MBG Information Services ❚ Martin
Melkonian Hofstra University ❚ Seymour Melman Columbia University ❚ Jo Beth Mertens Hobart and William Smith Colleges ❚ Clarisse Messemer Lewis
and Clark College ❚ Peter B. Meyer University of Louisville ❚ Thomas Michl Colgate University ❚ Edward Miguel University of California - Berkeley ❚ John
A. Miller Wheaton College ❚ S.M. Miller Commonwealth Institute ❚ Jerry Miner Syracuse University ❚ Diane Monaco Manchester College ❚ Edward B.
Montgomery University of Maryland ❚ Robert E. Moore Georgia State University ❚ Barbara A. Morgan Johns Hopkins University ❚ John R. Morris
University of Colorado - Denver ❚ Fred Moseley Mount Holyoke College ❚ Leon N. Moses Northwestern University ❚ Philip I. Moss University of
Massachusetts - Lowell ❚ Tracy Mott University of Denver ❚ Kajal Mukhopadhyay University of Notre Dame ❚ Alicia H. Munnell Boston College ❚ Richard
J. Murnane Harvard University ❚ Michael Murray Bates College ❚ Peggy Musgrave University of California - Santa Cruz ❚ Richard A. Musgrave Harvard
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Tufts University ❚ Reynold F. Nesiba Augustana College - Sioux Falls, SD ❚ Egon Neuberger State University of New York - Stony Brook ❚ Donald A.
Nichols University of Wisconsin - Madison ❚ Laurie Nisonoff Hampshire College ❚ Emily Northrop Southwestern University ❚ Leslie Nulty ❚ Carol
O'Cleireacain The Brookings Institution ❚ Seamus O'Cleireacain State University of New York - Purchase ❚ Stephen A. O'Connell Swarthmore College
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❚ Douglas V. Orr Eastern Washington University ❚ Jonathan M. Orszag Competition Policy Associates, Inc. ❚ Peter Orszag The Brookings Institution
❚ Paul Osterman Massachusetts Institute of Technology ❚ Shaianne Osterreich Ithaca College ❚ Rudolph A. Oswald George Meany Labor Studies Center
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SierraSong, are you a reincarnation of JustGiggles, you know the one that has visions with statistics but posts them as known facts?

Posted in the "Bush Supporters" thread no doubt because blatham wishes to blame Bush for the acts of these criminals.

I suppose the next time a postal worker goes "postal" and kills 8 people during his lunch break, it will be Bush's fault, because he is the President? When postal worker Patrick Sherrill killed 14 of his fellow employees on August 20, 1986, in Edmond, Oklahoma, that was the fault of President Reagan? Or, better yet, it's the fault of Benjamin Franklin, because he formed the USPS?

And if a UPS driver decides to run over several pedestrians walking on the sidewalk with his big brown panel truck because he's bored and wanted to "mow somebody down," that criminal act is the responsibility of his employer?

90% of economists in the US - a bit lower in Canada, only 85%.

90% seems exaggerated, but the basic message is true. The most trustworthy source I know on this issue is a poll by the American Economic Review, an academic journal. Their respondents were confronted with a number of propositions, one of them being "minimum wages increase unemployment among young and unskilled workers." In the year 2000, 70% of the responding economists either "agreed" or "agreed with provisios", down from 80% in 1990. (Source (PDF))

Of course, neither 70% nor 80% is as much as 90%, and anyway "increases unemployment ..." is not the same as "don't want a raise". But it's fair to say that a substantial majority of economists are skeptical of raising the minimum wage. Indeed, they are skeptical of a minimum wage even existing.

Ever heard of the Commander in Chief? That would be Bush. AND YES, HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS MINIONS.

If not for Bush there would be no war in Iraq. Thus no soldiers killing families. Therefore Bush is responsible. There is something missing in the psyches of a lot of Americans. They are either unable or unwilling to acknowledge the carnage they are creating.

Bush's attitude towards human suffering borders on psychotic anti-social. He shows no emotion and cannot relate to death or the mess he has created. That attitude is picked up by the soldiers, who view human life as a video game. I suspect too much nose candy has affected Bush's brain. That, and booze.

Right on blatham. It takes a Canadian to know what's going on eh?

Earlier today I heard a blurb on the news that 11 Egyptians who had been issued student visas never showed up for their classes in Montana. No particular problem was involved, but the authorities did want to locate these guys for questioning.

Later today I heard that the FBI had put out an all points bulletin for the 11 Egyptians along with advice to local police forces to approach 'with caution'. Six of the eleven have "Mohammed" in their names.

Questions that come to mind:
1) Why do you suppose eleven Egyptians applied to the same school in Montana with all supposed to go through matriculation at the same time?

2) Is it okay to look for Egyptian looking guys in this case, or would that be unacceptable racial profiling? (I suppose they could disguise themselves as nuns or little old ladies in wheelchairs though>)

So in answer to the other examples I gave above, you would blame the Commander in Chief for the intentional criminal acts of governmental employees which are outside of the scope of their employment?



This is a familiar refrain from the anti-war crowd. By that same view, the US Congress shares the blame, for they authorized the use of military force against Iraq. Thus, according to you, Barbara Boxer is responsible. So is John Kerry. And Ted Kennedy ... Harry Reid ... Nanci Pelosi ...

Yup. They are all to blame. The Americans who sit on their arses and do nothing are to blame as well. Too pacified by big Macs and Coke, plasma TV's and beer?

Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Neither did they have WMD's, which was proven - then it was 'find bin Laden', then it was 'we need to spread democracy in Iraq' what will it be next? I see America has given up trying to find the evil bin Laden since they've got a new bogeyman -Hezebollah!!!! It's always somebody with you guys, isn't it?

Now you can be paranoid about Egyptians in Montana geesus, don't you feel safer with all of your hopeless insecurity - I mean, homeland security what a joke America is.

I heard Bin Laden was in Canada... Maybe we should go take a look.

We could send in the Boy Scouts, that should be enough to deter any Canadian resistance.