Why insulting prophet Muhammad?!

Of course, many Muslims find the idea of drinking camel's urine to be repulsive; and, as a result, they reject this hadith, even though it is Muttafaq 'Alaih. Others justify the hadith, and point out that horse urine is the source of conjugated equine estrogens (CEE) and available as Premarin®. It is an estrogen treatment for menopausal and premenopausal women. For them, it is reason to praise Muhammad whom, they claim, had miraculous foreknowledge of modern medicine. However, there is no specific evidence that those who were ill were menopausal women or that Muhammad suggested that camel urine would cure a woman who had a low level of estrogen.

Furthermore, those Muslims who think that Muhammad was given miraculous scientific knowledge only give lip service to this hadith. They would never put camel urine to their lips and drink it themselves. This shows that they don't really believe the so-called miracle in their hearts. If they did, they would be asking to drink camel's urine whenever they were ill. Since they neither believe nor follow Muhammad's advice in this hadith, their verbal praise of Muhammad's miraculous medical knowledge rings hollow and hypocritical.

nimh wrote:

Lash wrote:

nimh said...no, really:
Yes, IN THE WORLD violence over the cartoons has erupted in many places. Never said it wasnt. Never said anything about it, in fact.

However, you spoke of "riots sweeping EUROPE". Remember? (Course you do, cause I just quoted it, above, in the post you responded to.)
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Really, is this a joke?

Nope. Quite simple really.

You said riots were "sweeping Europe" over the cartoon affair. I mentioned that as one example of your penchant for caricatural exaggerations.
Incorrect. I initially said predominately Muslim violence was "sweeping" Europe during their first wave of violence surrounding the deaths of two youths near Paris. I brought evidence of my claims, which you decided to ignore. Now, that Muslims are conducting Riots Part 2, I wondered if you or others would concede there is a problem with specifically Muslim violence. I used the term "sweeping" to allude to the previous disagreement, which I'm sure you know.

There have been riots in Nigeria, Lybia, Beirut, Syria, Pakistan, true. None of those places lie in Europe though, so that's really neither here nor there.
There have been no riots in Europe?
<shrugs> Stuff like this is simple. You assert something, you get called on it - you've got the choice to either honestly address what you said, or act like you really said something else altogether.
Seems like I'd rather have your choices. Say whatever you want, ignore other's articles and evidence and then accuse them of being wrong in as many other threads as you please, without a fair representation of how completely irresponsibly you behaved. I really must trade you for your choices.
Re: riots sweeping Europe, the worst I've heard of was a demonstration in London where hateful placards were carried. That's hardly a riot. Did I miss something?
You're going to hang on to no Muslim violence in Europe?
If not, then it was one of those cartoonesque exaggerations, and I was merely pointing out the obvious. <shrugs>

Support for my statements...BBC

Violence spreads to 7 French cities...

Europe is the cancer...Islam is the answer...

Muslims manipulate protests

Muslims murder Christians in Nigeria

Danes threatened globally

Embassies torched by Muslims

Muslims violent in Brussells, Antwerp

I won't try to convince you, but I think there is a sweeping problem, featuring Muslims at a city near you.

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Steve (as 41oo) wrote:

nimh wrote:

That's two straightforward claims at once:

- the Muslim riots are not perpetrated by a tiny minority (I've mostly omitted to nag you about that one, but it is equally undefensible);

NOT perpetrated by a tiny minority? You mean it was a general uprising in the banlieues? A sort of intifada you mean?

Uhm, no Steve; I quoted Lash's claim that they were not perpetrated by a small minority. That would be a claim I disagree with - riots are almost always the work of a small minority.

You may be an atheist or an agnostic; or you may belong to anyone of the religious denominations that exist in the world today. You may be a Communist or a believer in democracy and freedom. No matter what you are, and no matter what your religious and political beliefs, personal and social habits happen to be - YOU MUST STILL KNOW THIS MAN!

He was by far the most remarkable man that ever set foot on this earth. He preached a religion, founded a state, built a nation, laid down a moral code, initiated numberless social and political reforms, established a dynamic and powerful society to practice and represent his teachings, and completely revolutionized the worlds of human thought and action for all times to come.

HIS NAME IS MUHAMMAD, peace and blessings of Almighty God be upon him and he accomplished all these wonders in the unbelievably short span of twenty-three years.

Muhammad, peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon him was born in Arabia on the 20th of August, in the year 570 of the Christian era, and when he died after 63 years, the whole of the Arabian Peninsula had changed from paganism and idol-worship to the worship of One God; from tribal quarrels and wars to national solidarity and cohesion; from drunkenness and debauchery to sobriety and piety; from lawlessness and anarchy to disciplined living; from utter moral bankruptcy to the highest standards of moral excellence. Human history has never known such a complete transformation of a people or a place before or since!

The Encyclopedia Britannica calls him "the most successful of all religious personalities of the world". Bernard Shaw said about him that if Muhammad were alive today he would succeed in solving all those problems which threaten to destroy human civilization in our times. Thomas Carlysle was simply amazed as to how one man, single-handedly, could weld warring tribes and wandering Bedouins into a most powerful and civilized nation in less than two decades. Napoleon and Gandhi never tired of dreaming of a society along the lines established by this man in Arabia fourteen centuries ago.

Indeed no other human being ever accomplished so much, in such diverse fields of human thought and behavior, in so limited a space of time, as did Muhammad, peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon him. He was a religious teacher, a social reformer, a moral guide, a political thinker, a military genius, an administrative colossus, a faithful friend, a wonderful companion, a devoted husband, a loving father - all in one. No other man in history ever excelled or equaled him in any of these difficult departments of life.

The world has had its share of great personalities. But these were one sided figures who distinguished themselves in but one or two fields such as religious thought or military leadership. None of the other great leaders of the world ever combined in himself so many different qualities to such an amazing level of perfection as did Muhammad, peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon him.

The lives and teachings of other great personalities of the world are shrouded in the mist of time. There is so much speculation about the time and the place of their birth, the mode and style of their life, the nature and detail of their teachings and the degree and measure of their success or failure that it is impossible for humanity today to reconstruct accurately and precisely the lives and teachings of those men.

Not so this man Muhammad, peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon him. Not only was he born in the fullest blaze of recorded history, but every detail of his private and public life, of his actions and utterances, has been accurately documented and faithfully preserved to our day. The authenticity of the information so preserved is vouched for not only by faithful followers but also by unbiased critics and open-minded scholars.

At the level of ideas there is no system of thought and belief-secular or religious, social or political-which could surpass or equal ISLAAM- the system which Muhammad peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon him propounded. In a fast changing world, while other systems have undergone profound transformations, Islaam alone has remained above all change and mutation, and retained its original form for the past 1400 years. What is more, the positive changes that are taking place in the world of human thought and behavior, truly and consistently reflect the healthy influence of Islam in these areas. Further, it is not given to the best of thinkers to put their ideas completely into practice, and to see the seeds of their labors grow and bear fruit, in their own lifetime. Except of course, Muhammad, peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon him, who not only preached the most wonderful ideas but also successfully translated each one of them into practice in his own lifetime. At the time of his death his teachings were not mere precepts and ideas straining for fulfillment, but had become the very core of the life of tens of thousands of perfectly trained individuals, each one of whom was a marvelous personification of everything that Muhammad peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon him taught and stood for. At what other time or place and in relation to what other political, social, religious system, philosophy or ideology-did the world ever witness such a perfectly amazing phenomenon?

Indeed no other system or ideology secular or religious, social or political, ancient or modern - could ever claim the distinction of having been put into practice in its fullness and entirety EVEN ONCE in this world, either before or after the death of its founder. Except of course ISLAAM, the ideology preached by Muhammad, peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon him which was established as a complete way of life by the teacher himself, before he departed from this world. History bears testimony to this fact and the greatest skeptics have no option but to concede this point.

In spite of these amazing achievements and in spite of the countless absolutely convincing and authentic miracles performed by him and the phenomenal success which crowned his efforts, he did not for a moment claim to be God or God's incarnation or Son - but only a human being who was chosen and ordained by God to be a teacher of truth to man kind and a complete model and pattern for their actions.

He was nothing more or less than a human being. But he was a man with a noble and exalted mission-and his unique mission was to unite humanity on the worship of ONE AND ONLY GOD and to teach them the way to honest and upright living in accordance with the laws and commands of God. He always described himself as A MESSENGER AND SERVANT OF GOD, and so indeed every single action and movement of his proclaimed him to be.

A world which has not hesitated to raise to Divinity individuals whose very lives and missions have been lost in legend and who historically speaking did not accomplish half as much-or even one tenth-as was accomplished by Muhammad, peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon him should stop to take serious note of this remarkable man's claim to be God's messenger to mankind.

Today after the lapse of some 1400 years the life and teachings of Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon him, have survived without the slightest loss, alteration or interpolation. Today they offer the same undying hope for treating mankind's many ills which they did when Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon him, was alive. This is our honest claim and this is the inescapable conclusion forced upon us by a critical and unbiased study of history.

The least YOU should do as a thinking, sensitive, concerned human being is to stop for one brief moment and ask yourself: Could it be that these statements, extraordinary and revolutionary as they sound, are really true? Supposing they really are true, and you did not know this man Muhammad, peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon him or hear about his teachings? Or did not know him well and intimately enough to be able to benefit from his guidance and example? Isn't it time you responded to this tremendous challenge and made some effort to know him? It will not cost you anything but it may well prove to be the beginning of a completely new era in your life.

Come, let us make a new discovery of the life of this wonderful man Muhammad, peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon him the like of whom never walked on this earth, and whose example and teachings can change YOUR LIFE and OUR WORLD for the better. May God shower His choicest blessings upon him!

nimh wrote:

Steve (as 41oo) wrote:

nimh wrote:

That's two straightforward claims at once:

- the Muslim riots are not perpetrated by a tiny minority (I've mostly omitted to nag you about that one, but it is equally undefensible);

NOT perpetrated by a tiny minority? You mean it was a general uprising in the banlieues? A sort of intifada you mean?

Uhm, no Steve; I quoted Lash's claim that they were not perpetrated by a small minority. That would be a claim I disagree with - riots are almost always the work of a small minority.

Unless it's a large minority in an area.

Thousands constitutes LARGE.
God, how anal can one person be?

PPatience wrote:

you dont have any other answer?! This is ur answer to all posts!

It's the only type of answer your drivel warrants.

I'm starting to see a definite anti-muslim bias on this board.