CANADA'S NEW PRIME-MINISTER TELLS U.S. "TO BUTT OUT"

C'mon. There is one hell of a big difference between quoting an American and selling out our country to them. My sig used to be "God Bless America, but God help Canadians to understand them." That great American, Setanta, accused me of U.S. bashing for using that. It seems that folks can pick what they want to try to make their case.

On the money issue,l you don't seem to understand that at all. And, don't call me comrade. In Canada most medical procedures are paid for. If you go across the boarder and end up in the hospital, you better have lots of money or be smart enought to take out insurance before you leave.

I will only make one serious comment at this point: It does not take a rocket scientist to know that one should have extra medical insurance if you leave Canada. But…..............that in no way reflects negatively on the US (or any other country for that matter) nor does it hold Canada in higher esteem. In fact it is not relevant as to whether the US system has a higher level of efficacy or not, vis-à-vis Canada.

If it was up to me, I would integrate the two countries and be done with the silliness.

Just think what kind of a nifty holiday you could have travelling up the entire west coast of North America without issues. Let alone the absolutly unbeatable ecncomcic powerhouse it would create.

As an added bonus the politics would keep you well entertained. Can you imagine when the melting pot meet multiculturalism? Or when Canada's Official Languages Act gets enforced in Southern California?

How about Bush trying to deal with Quebec separatists……………

Hi pachelbel,

As much as I dislike certain aspects of the US, such as the Christians sleeping with the Republicans, the overly ingrained Industrial Military Complex, I would have Canada join the US in a New York minute. The artifice of the border, and the feigning of Canadian independence vis-a-vis the US are not confirmed by the socioeconomic realty of North America.

Our standard of living would go down, indeed.

Intrepid wrote:

Our standard of living would go down, indeed.

I thought I already dealt you a deathly blow with my irrefutable logic, affable easy going nature, and rapier wit, and you had agreed to join up with our southern neighbors.






Whenever I give the word of course.

Chumly wrote:

Hi JustWonders,
I am Canadian and I get so tired of Canada beating it's drum as to how wonderful our health care system is, and how the US's is much inferior.

The propaganda here runs so thick, you'd think crossing the border would be a serous heath hazard. And if you do get sick in the US, you would be assured of a painful death with no medical attention!

Just take lots of money.

[You are entitled to your hubris, Timber. One can see you're in denial. But that's ok. The world doesn't care much what you think, or what I think. Two percent of the US control 95% of the wealth of the US.

Altho you won't admit it, the US lost the War of 1812 as well as the Vietnam war.

Check out another revolution against a superpower: it was called the American Revolution. Whether it was Washington's scorched earth policy with the Indians of upstate New York, the Boston Tea Party, or tar and feathering English tax collectors, the insurgents also used TERRORIST tactics. There is nothing new under the sun. (Ecclesiastes 1:9). The average age for any empire is 150 years, except for Turkey, Rome, or China. Nothing lasts forever. Not even the mighty, powerful, US of A.

If you're ok supporting the military/industrial complex, feel free. Aren't you glad your paychecks go for purchase of more Blackhawks? Altho, they don't seem to stay up in the air too long......those dang insurgents just aren't grateful to be served American-style democracy on a silver platter, eh?

Sigh. Life's tough, when you're a superpower......

Intrepid wrote:

Just take lots of money.

And join all the other Canadians down here looking for prompt access to specialists not otherwise available under Canada's socialist system of rationed medical care.

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The normal U.S. policy in such conditions is simply to ignore the offending claim and use the straits anyway.

I dont think thats the point. The Canadians would probably be quite happy for the US and other countries to use what may or may not be territorial waters. The point being made by the Canadian prime minister is to retaliate(?) against the arrogance with which America assumes that if we want it thats the way it will be and if you dont like it well just smack you in the mouth. Had the American ambassadore not make such a bald and arrogant statement I feel sure The Canadian prime minister would not have made such a fuss.

A simple request such as "You dont mind if we sail a few ships through the nortwest passage do you" would not have elicited a similar response.

I understand the pro american responses on this thread but they all smack of similar arrogance................
Rule 1. The boss is always right.
Rule 2. If the boss is wrong see rule 1.
and if you dont like it we will use our muscle.

The world seems to be forming a view of Americans as fat, lazy, rude, arrogant and insular. I know all 300 million cant possible be like that but on the evidence I have to hand its hard to argue against.

As much as I dislike certain aspects of the US, such as the Christians sleeping with the Republicans, the overly ingrained Industrial Military Complex…

But the majority of Canadians do NOT want to join the US (and have no health coverage? Shudder). If you like them so much, why not move there? Not hard to get in.

There are a lot of differences between the two countries besides the Parlimentary gov and our monetary system.

Canada has always been in the position of peacekeeper.

That's why Americans (as has been pointed out here somewhere) like to have the Canadian Maple Leaf on their backpacks/baggage when they travel out of America. Why, do you think?

Canada has resources galore that the US would just love to get their hands on. Water, the most fresh water on earth, gold (the biggest in the world), diamond mines, and that black gold: oil - second only to Saudi Arabia.

I'm sure our ancestors who helped found Canada would agree that Canada should just turn it all over to the Americans. esp. the ones who went to war against the Americans, and won, in 1812.

pachelbel wrote:

[You are entitled to your hubris, Timber. One can see you're in denial. But that's ok. The world doesn't care much what you think, or what I think. Two percent of the US control 95% of the wealth of the US.

Altho you won't admit it, the US lost the War of 1812 as well as the Vietnam war.

Check out another revolution against a superpower: it was called the American Revolution. Whether it was Washington's scorched earth policy with the Indians of upstate New York, the Boston Tea Party, or tar and feathering English tax collectors, the insurgents also used TERRORIST tactics. There is nothing new under the sun. (Ecclesiastes 1:9). The average age for any empire is 150 years, except for Turkey, Rome, or China. Nothing lasts forever. Not even the mighty, powerful, US of A.

If you're ok supporting the military/industrial complex, feel free. Aren't you glad your paychecks go for purchase of more Blackhawks? Altho, they don't seem to stay up in the air too long......those dang insurgents just aren't grateful to be served American-style democracy on a silver platter, eh?

Sigh. Life's tough, when you're a superpower......

Just noticed this while perusing the back pages of this thread. Gosh ! How long have you felt this way about us, pachebel? I know we exported most of our Tories to Canada during the revolution, but I thought that their antiquated point of view died with the eighteenth century. Are things a bit dull for you up there?

Loved that bit about the average age of empires (except for Rome, China, etc - i.e. most of them) Where did you find that factoid? I believe that in 1970 when the Portuguese empire in Africa and Asia finally crumbled, it was already over 400 years old. Then of course there was Egypt, Persia, even Athens, the Moguls, Spain, Russia, and of course the British. You also left out the eastern Roman Empire and the Habsburgs.

Impressive ignorance.