It's time you realised where we're coming from

Bartikus wrote:

Questioner wrote:

Momma Angel wrote:

An opinion is formed on information and on the beliefs of the person receiving the information.

As an aside, an opinion can also be formed by a noticeable lack of information.

This is true of anyone. Unless one has all the information.

This is true, though rather silly to point out.

Please show me how your personal beliefs accord with the bulk of Christian teachings, and the bulk of Christian history.

Also are all what you call "opinions" equal in merit?

I know you believe you understand what you think I said; but I'm not sure you realize that what I said was not what I meant.

Chumly wrote:

Please show me how your personal beliefs accord with the bulk of Christian teachings, and the bulk of Christian history.

Also are all what you call "opinions" equal in merit?

Chumly,

That's quite a different question I think. I thought you asked about my beliefs in relation to Christianity in the Bible? Which do you want an answer to?

I think everyone deserves the same respect. Of course, this means you don't have to accept my opinion or anyone else's for that matter. They do have equal value in the respect everyone has the right to them.

Momma Angel wrote:

Chumly wrote:

Please show me how your personal beliefs accord with the bulk of Christian teachings, and the bulk of Christian history.

Also are all what you call "opinions" equal in merit?

Chumly,

That's quite a different question I think. I thought you asked about my beliefs in relation to Christianity in the Bible? Which do you want an answer to?

I think everyone deserves the same respect. Of course, this means you don't have to accept my opinion or anyone else's for that matter. They do have equal value in the respect everyone has the right to them.

Both questions have much the same focus.
You did not understand the first one so I rephrased it for you
Please re-read them carefully
I did not say "in the Bible"
It's not that tough a question

Please show me how your personal beliefs accord with the bulk of Christian teachings, and the bulk of Christian history.

Mom,
Further would you please explain what your personal beliefs have to do with Christianity as per the bible?

Please show me how your personal beliefs accord with the bulk of Christian teachings, and the bulk of Christian history.

Also are all what you call "opinions" equal in merit?

MA

As to question #1
I did not ask you if you felt everyone had a right to an opinion.
I did ask you about beliefs.
I did not ask you about wrong or right.
I did not ask you about judgment.

I asked: "Are all what you call "opinions" equal in merit?"

Here is the meaning of merit as intended in this context:
The factual content of a matter, apart from emotional, contextual, or formal considerations

As to question #2
I did not say they were the "same".
As you did not understand the question I rephrased it.
They both pertain to the same underlying catalyst, so you can choose either one, or you are welcome to answer both.

I asked: "Would you please explain what your personal beliefs have to do with Christianity as per the bible?"
- rephrased -
I asked: "Please show me how your personal beliefs accord with the bulk of Christian teachings, and the bulk of Christian history."

I have never accused you of being "slow" and I am sure you can answer the questions.

Cheers,
Chum

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Chumly wrote:

MA

As to question #1
I did not ask you if you felt everyone had a right to an opinion.
I did ask you about beliefs.
I did not ask you about wrong or right.
I did not ask you about judgment.

I asked: "Are all what you call "opinions" equal in merit?"

Here is the meaning of merit as intended in this context:
The factual content of a matter, apart from emotional, contextual, or formal considerations

As to question #2
I did not say they were the "same".
As you did not understand the question I rephrased it.
They both pertain to the same underlying catalyst, so you can choose either one, or you are welcome to answer both.

I asked: "Would you please explain what your personal beliefs have to do with Christianity as per the bible?"
- rephrased -
I asked: "Please show me how your personal beliefs accord with the bulk of Christian teachings, and the bulk of Christian history."

I have never accused you of being "slow" and I am sure you can answer the questions.

Cheers,
Chum

Chumly,

I HAVE answered your question about opinions. You may not like the answer but I did answer it.

And I am still not clear on that other question. I am sorry but I don't know what bulk of Christianity you are talking about. I would imagine our thoughts differ on this greatly.

You did not accuse me of being slow but you did mention a couple of times it's not a hard question. It may not be, but I don't fully understand it so I ask.

Momma Angel wrote:

Chumly wrote:

MA

As to question #1
I did not ask you if you felt everyone had a right to an opinion.
I did ask you about beliefs.
I did not ask you about wrong or right.
I did not ask you about judgment.

I asked: "Are all what you call "opinions" equal in merit?"

Here is the meaning of merit as intended in this context:
The factual content of a matter, apart from emotional, contextual, or formal considerations

As to question #2
I did not say they were the "same".
As you did not understand the question I rephrased it.
They both pertain to the same underlying catalyst, so you can choose either one, or you are welcome to answer both.

I asked: "Would you please explain what your personal beliefs have to do with Christianity as per the bible?"
- rephrased -
I asked: "Please show me how your personal beliefs accord with the bulk of Christian teachings, and the bulk of Christian history."

I have never accused you of being "slow" and I am sure you can answer the questions.

Cheers,
Chum

Chumly,

I HAVE answered your question about opinions. You may not like the answer but I did answer it.

And I am still not clear on that other question. I am sorry but I don't know what bulk of Christianity you are talking about. I would imagine our thoughts differ on this greatly.

You did not accuse me of being slow but you did mention a couple of times it's not a hard question. It may not be, but I don't fully understand it so I ask.

If you had answered question #1 about opinions, you would have told me whether or not what you call "opinions" are equal in terms of the factual content of the matter. .

You now tell me you have answered question #1 and you further tell me I did not like your answer.

Would you please show me where you told me that what you call "opinions" are equal / not equal in terms of the factual content of the matter?

Would you please show me where I said I did not like your answer?

Do you wish to answer question #1 as asked?

As to question #2 the so-called "bulk of Christianity" I am talking about are the bulk of Christian teachings, and the bulk of Christian history. Does that help?

Do you wish to answer question #1 as asked?

Do you wish to answer question #2 now?

I know you can do it

Chumly wrote:

Momma Angel wrote:

Chumly wrote:

MA

As to question #1
I did not ask you if you felt everyone had a right to an opinion.
I did ask you about beliefs.
I did not ask you about wrong or right.
I did not ask you about judgment.

I asked: "Are all what you call "opinions" equal in merit?"

Here is the meaning of merit as intended in this context:
The factual content of a matter, apart from emotional, contextual, or formal considerations

As to question #2
I did not say they were the "same".
As you did not understand the question I rephrased it.
They both pertain to the same underlying catalyst, so you can choose either one, or you are welcome to answer both.

I asked: "Would you please explain what your personal beliefs have to do with Christianity as per the bible?"
- rephrased -
I asked: "Please show me how your personal beliefs accord with the bulk of Christian teachings, and the bulk of Christian history."

I have never accused you of being "slow" and I am sure you can answer the questions.

Cheers,
Chum

Chumly,

I HAVE answered your question about opinions. You may not like the answer but I did answer it.

And I am still not clear on that other question. I am sorry but I don't know what bulk of Christianity you are talking about. I would imagine our thoughts differ on this greatly.

You did not accuse me of being slow but you did mention a couple of times it's not a hard question. It may not be, but I don't fully understand it so I ask.

If you had answered question #1 about opinions, you would have told me whether or not what you call "opinions" are equal in terms of the factual content of the matter. .

You now tell me you have answered question #1 and you further tell me I did not like your answer.

Would you please show me where you told me that what you call "opinions" are equal / not equal in terms of the factual content of the matter?

Would you please show me where I said I did not like your answer?

Do you wish to answer question #1 as asked?

As to question #2 the so-called "bulk of Christianity" I am talking about are the bulk of Christian teachings, and the bulk of Christian history. Does that help?

Do you wish to answer question #1 as asked?

Do you wish to answer question #2 now?

I know you can do it

Chumly,

I have answered the question about opinions to the best of my ability. Seeing that you seem to require proof and not faith and I require faith and not proof, I would imagine our ideas of what is fact to you and what is fact to me might be somewhat different. You obviously didn't like my answer because you won't even accept it as an answer. :wink:

I follow the teachings of Christ in the Bible. I don't follow any certain church doctrine. And no, it doesn't help because what bulk of Christianity are you talking about? Who do you consider the bulk to be? Fundamentalists? Catholics, etc? What or who?

Momma Angel wrote:

Chumly wrote:

Momma Angel wrote:

Chumly wrote:

MA

As to question #1
I did not ask you if you felt everyone had a right to an opinion.
I did ask you about beliefs.
I did not ask you about wrong or right.
I did not ask you about judgment.

I asked: "Are all what you call "opinions" equal in merit?"

Here is the meaning of merit as intended in this context:
The factual content of a matter, apart from emotional, contextual, or formal considerations

As to question #2
I did not say they were the "same".
As you did not understand the question I rephrased it.
They both pertain to the same underlying catalyst, so you can choose either one, or you are welcome to answer both.

I asked: "Would you please explain what your personal beliefs have to do with Christianity as per the bible?"
- rephrased -
I asked: "Please show me how your personal beliefs accord with the bulk of Christian teachings, and the bulk of Christian history."

I have never accused you of being "slow" and I am sure you can answer the questions.

Cheers,
Chum

Chumly,

I HAVE answered your question about opinions. You may not like the answer but I did answer it.

And I am still not clear on that other question. I am sorry but I don't know what bulk of Christianity you are talking about. I would imagine our thoughts differ on this greatly.

You did not accuse me of being slow but you did mention a couple of times it's not a hard question. It may not be, but I don't fully understand it so I ask.

If you had answered question #1 about opinions, you would have told me whether or not what you call "opinions" are equal in terms of the factual content of the matter. .

You now tell me you have answered question #1 and you further tell me I did not like your answer.

Would you please show me where you told me that what you call "opinions" are equal / not equal in terms of the factual content of the matter?

Would you please show me where I said I did not like your answer?

Do you wish to answer question #1 as asked?

As to question #2 the so-called "bulk of Christianity" I am talking about are the bulk of Christian teachings, and the bulk of Christian history. Does that help?

Do you wish to answer question #1 as asked?

Do you wish to answer question #2 now?

I know you can do it

Chumly,

I have answered the question about opinions to the best of my ability. Seeing that you seem to require proof and not faith and I require faith and not proof, I would imagine our ideas of what is fact to you and what is fact to me might be somewhat different. You obviously didn't like my answer because you won't even accept it as an answer. :wink:

I follow the teachings of Christ in the Bible. I don't follow any certain church doctrine. And no, it doesn't help because what bulk of Christianity are you talking about? Who do you consider the bulk to be? Fundamentalists? Catholics, etc? What or who?

I don't have an opinion on what you call your answer to question number #1 except to say your response was out of context because what you provided was not an answer to the question. Please read question # 1 again, I am sure you can do it.

I have answered the question. I do not feel it is a yes or no type question. I answered it.

The bulk of Christianity that I am talking about is the major portion or greater part of Christianity, does that help? Do you want me to define Christianity for you?

This is what I mean, Chumly. "Do you want me to define Christianity for you?" I am getting a bit frustrated because I ask you for clarification because I don't fully understand and you have to make a remark like that? I can't answer your question until I understand it. You just keep asking me the same question and give me no more information even after I ask for it.

When you say that you "follow the teachings of Christ in the Bible" that is a bit of a start.

Gee, thanx.

Now if you can answer the two questions with acuity we could move forward as there is a long way to go in this discussion Please take the two questions, think about them for a nice while and get back then.
Cheers,
Chum

Chumly wrote:

Momma Angel wrote:

Chumly wrote:

Momma Angel wrote:

Chumly wrote:

MA

As to question #1
I did not ask you if you felt everyone had a right to an opinion.
I did ask you about beliefs.
I did not ask you about wrong or right.
I did not ask you about judgment.

I asked: "Are all what you call "opinions" equal in merit?"

Here is the meaning of merit as intended in this context:
The factual content of a matter, apart from emotional, contextual, or formal considerations

As to question #2
I did not say they were the "same".
As you did not understand the question I rephrased it.
They both pertain to the same underlying catalyst, so you can choose either one, or you are welcome to answer both.

I asked: "Would you please explain what your personal beliefs have to do with Christianity as per the bible?"
- rephrased -
I asked: "Please show me how your personal beliefs accord with the bulk of Christian teachings, and the bulk of Christian history."

I have never accused you of being "slow" and I am sure you can answer the questions.

Cheers,
Chum

Chumly,

I HAVE answered your question about opinions. You may not like the answer but I did answer it.

And I am still not clear on that other question. I am sorry but I don't know what bulk of Christianity you are talking about. I would imagine our thoughts differ on this greatly.

You did not accuse me of being slow but you did mention a couple of times it's not a hard question. It may not be, but I don't fully understand it so I ask.

If you had answered question #1 about opinions, you would have told me whether or not what you call "opinions" are equal in terms of the factual content of the matter. .

You now tell me you have answered question #1 and you further tell me I did not like your answer.

Would you please show me where you told me that what you call "opinions" are equal / not equal in terms of the factual content of the matter?

Would you please show me where I said I did not like your answer?

Do you wish to answer question #1 as asked?

As to question #2 the so-called "bulk of Christianity" I am talking about are the bulk of Christian teachings, and the bulk of Christian history. Does that help?

Do you wish to answer question #1 as asked?

Do you wish to answer question #2 now?

I know you can do it

Chumly,

I have answered the question about opinions to the best of my ability. Seeing that you seem to require proof and not faith and I require faith and not proof, I would imagine our ideas of what is fact to you and what is fact to me might be somewhat different. You obviously didn't like my answer because you won't even accept it as an answer. :wink:

I follow the teachings of Christ in the Bible. I don't follow any certain church doctrine. And no, it doesn't help because what bulk of Christianity are you talking about? Who do you consider the bulk to be? Fundamentalists? Catholics, etc? What or who?

I don't have an opinion on what you call your answer to question number #1 except to say your response was out of context because what you provided was not an answer to the question. Please read question # 1 again, I am sure you can do it.

I have answered the question. I do not feel it is a yes or no type question. I answered it.

The bulk of Christianity that I am talking about is the major portion or greater part of Christianity, does that help? Do you want me to define Christianity for you?

This is what I mean, Chumly. "Do you want me to define Christianity for you?" I am getting a bit frustrated because I ask you for clarification because I don't fully understand and you have to make a remark like that? I can't answer your question until I understand it. You just keep asking me the same question and give me no more information even after I ask for it.

When you say that you "follow the teachings of Christ in the Bible" that is a bit of a start.

Gee, thanx.

Now if you can answer the two questions with acuity we could move forward as there is a long way to go in this discussion Please take the two questions, think about them for a nice while and get back then.
Cheers,
Chum