The Spiritual and/or Religious beliefs of an Atheist

c.i.- I had started this thread when you were not frequenting A2K. I think that you might find it interesting:

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=63888

I found something very interesting when I was searching for my thread. The article said that the word apatheist started to circulate around 2000. Check out my post, that was written in 2003, and the response by Maraso.
In those years, I considered myself an atheist, but have subsequently modified my views:

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=71918#71918

Atheist still defines me; no middle ground of any kind for me.

Is that like changing your mind?

Whatever floats your boat!

I live by a simple rule; keep my life simple.

Having worked in accounting as a career, we have a tendency to see mostly black and white, and rarely greys.

Frank, you know I love you like a brother. However, it is your belief that there is no way to choose between believing in a god and being an atheist. You state that often enough it has to be a belief. The reason I can say with confidence that I am an atheist is that I am not caught up by the deist's made up concepts. I don't have to have evidence why a made up something does not exist. One needn't be a scientist or philosopher to grasp so plain a fact. Peace.

Hi edgarblythe,

Fair enough but how to explain a purely theoretical physics postulate which at some much later date become potentially factual? Give it no credence at all unless or until proven otherwise?

Granted a purely theoretical physics postulate is likely a far cry from the inane religious dogma of popular religions. But the premise of the existence of some god versus Atheism is perhaps another matter.

That's why I am leaning towards skeptical agnosticism.

Quoted for truth.

To me, the concept of a god far removed from dogma is but a variation of the theme, and therefore no different or more enlightened. And I say that in the kindest tone of voice, using non threatening body language.

Well you won't get an argument out of me as you make your point well.

edgarblythe wrote:
Frank, you know I love you like a brother. However, it is your belief that there is no way to choose between believing in a god and being an atheist. You state that often enough it has to be a belief. The reason I can say with confidence that I am an atheist is that I am not caught up by the deist's made up concepts. I don't have to have evidence why a made up something does not exist. One needn't be a scientist or philosopher to grasp so plain a fact. Peace.

Doktor wrote:
Quoted for truth.

c.i. writes:
Clear and concise. I especially like "I don't have to have evidence why a made up something does not exist."

My opinion..

2+2=4 (believers)

2+2=1,2,3....,5,6,7......eternity (Atheist)

2+2=0 (sophist)

2+2=? .. ?....... !*.. =4 (realist)

that's quite an opinion, does it mean anything?

Vroodie.

Dear Dyslexia
Only I wanted to express what I think on believers or nonbelievers. No deep mean.. only little idea..

kev wrote:
My opinion..

2+2=4 (believers)

Question: If believers are rational (2+2 = 4), please show proof of 1) god, 2) Noah's ark or world flood, 3) creation in six, 24-hour days, and 4) why god supports slavery.

And please, limit your reply to a single paragraph.

to Mr.Cicerone about Nouh
for example,

When the sky is rent asunder * Heeding [the command of] its Sustainer, as in truth it must. * And when the earth is levelled * And casts out what is within it and becomes empty * And it heeds [the command of] its Sustainer, as in truth it must.16

This explains in a truly elevated style the degree of submission and obedience to Almighty God's command of the skies and the earth. It is like this: just as a commander-in-chief opens two offices to accommodate the matters necessary for fighting, like one for strategy and one for the enrollment of soldiers, and when those matters are accomplished and the fighting is over, he addresses himself to the two offices in order to convert them into something else for some other business, they both say, either through the tongues of those employed in them or through their own tongues: "O Chief! Give us a short respite so that we can clean up the bits and pieces of the former business and throw them out, then you may honour us with your presence. There, we have thrown them out, we await your command. Order what you wish. We hear and obey! Everything you do is true, good, and beneficial."