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The Spiritual and/or Religious beliefs of an Atheist

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 12 Mar, 2006 12:22 pm
Scientists are putting much effort into looking for "santient beings" on other planets, while only religious people are "looking for god." Religious people admit to god's existence, but they can't provide any proof/evidence. Scientists, on the other hand, may someday prove life on other planets. The difference is between "possible" and "impossible."
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 12 Mar, 2006 12:23 pm
You are free to accept the "impossible" as I don't know. I prefer to say "there is no god."
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 12 Mar, 2006 12:39 pm
A blind guess that there may be a god (gods) is as unrealistic as anything we may dream up. Therefore, "I don't know" is an equally unrealistic answer.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 12 Mar, 2006 12:47 pm
I make commitments to things that may hold some answers in the future. If there is a good chance an answer is impossible or not forthcoming, I will not commit myself to guessing with "I don't know." My life doesn't evolve around "I don't know" for matters that has no possibility of an answer in the future. If asked, do I believe in a twenty legged rabbit, I would say no - not "I don't know."
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 12 Mar, 2006 12:47 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
edgar explained it quite well concerning "santient beings on other planets." That's my answer too! The Mars probe now orbitting Mars is looking into that very question.


I will take that to mean you will not answer my question.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 12 Mar, 2006 12:48 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Scientists are putting much effort into looking for "santient beings" on other planets, while only religious people are "looking for god." Religious people admit to god's existence, but they can't provide any proof/evidence. Scientists, on the other hand, may someday prove life on other planets. The difference is between "possible" and "impossible."


None of that matters.

They may be dead wrong.

Bottom line, though, is that you are saying there are no gods.

That can only be a blind guess.

And it may be wrong.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 12 Mar, 2006 12:49 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
You are free to accept the "impossible" as I don't know. I prefer to say "there is no god."


I thank you for sharing that blind guess with me, ci. I prefer to simply acknowledge the truth....that I do not know.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 12 Mar, 2006 12:51 pm
It's not a "blind guess." In your mind, it's a blind guess. In mine, god doesn't exist; no if's, and's or but's. If mine is a blind guess, prove it.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 12 Mar, 2006 12:51 pm
edgarblythe wrote:
A blind guess that there may be a god (gods) is as unrealistic as anything we may dream up.


Including the blind guess of the atheist..."there are no gods."


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Therefore, "I don't know" is an equally unrealistic answer.


There is absolutely nothing unrealistic or unreasonable about the response, "I do not know."

But I thank you and ci for showing that atheists can be every bit as pig headed in defending their unwarranted, blind guesses as theists.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 12 Mar, 2006 12:52 pm
You also missed my statement about the difference between "possible" and "impossible."
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 12 Mar, 2006 12:53 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
It's not a "blind guess." In your mind, it's a blind guess. In mine, god doesn't exist; no if's, and's or but's. If mine is a blind guess, prove it.


Yeah...that's almost word for word what I hear from the theists in this board.

It is not a "blind guess", Frank. Only ink your mind is it a blind gues. In my mind...God exists...no if's, and's, or but's! If it is a "blind guess"...prove it.

I wish you had passed by this pathetic thread, ci...but you have decided to participate.

You are blindly guessing that there are no gods.

Live with it.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 12 Mar, 2006 12:54 pm
I have answered your question, but, since I haven't answered on your terms, you see it as unanswered. There is no way of knowing if there is a god only in the sense of the old lady spouting about flying green snakes that strangle cows. In your own words, "No reason to 'believe' her."
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 12 Mar, 2006 12:54 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
You also missed my statement about the difference between "possible" and "impossible."


No, I did not miss your guess about what is "possible" and what is "impossible."

I got a good laugh out of it.

Sorry I didn't mention it.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 12 Mar, 2006 12:54 pm
Frank, In your world, "I don't know" is acceptable where it concerns gods. Why do you try to enforce your personal beliefs on others? Is it that important to you? Why do you think you have a monoply on truth?
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 12 Mar, 2006 12:55 pm
edgarblythe wrote:
I have answered your question, but, since I haven't answered on your terms, you see it as unanswered. There is no way of knowing if there is a god only in the sense of the old lady spouting about flying green snakes that strangle cows. In your own words, "No reason to 'believe' her."


You are blindly guessing that there are no gods.

Re-read the entire of my post on that issue.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 12 Mar, 2006 12:57 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Frank, In your world, "I don't know" is acceptable where it concerns gods.



Okay.

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Why do you try to enforce your personal beliefs on others?


It is not a "belief." You theists and atheists do the "believing" around here.


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Is it that important to you?


It is very important to me to share in these threads. That is why we are here, isn't it????



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Why do you think you have a monoply on truth?


I don't. You know the truth also. You just cannot bring yourself to acknowledge it on this issue.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 12 Mar, 2006 12:58 pm
If I'm blindly guessing there are no gods, beccause I also think twenty legged rabbits don't exist, I guess there may be some grain of truth for you. In my world, they both do not exist.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 12 Mar, 2006 01:03 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
If I'm blindly guessing there are no gods, beccause I also think twenty legged rabbits don't exist, I guess there may be some grain of truth for you.


Well...you are blindly guessing about whether or not gods exist...so if you can think of a logical reason why the other crap has to follow...

...I guess it does.


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In my world, they both do not exist.


That's another thing the theists say to me a lot. In my world...God exists.


Wake up, ci.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 12 Mar, 2006 01:08 pm
In my world is all that counts. Your opinions has merit for discussions on web boards, but it doesn't matter squat what other theists, atheists, or agnostics say in an attempt to influence their life.

I'm surprised you haven't still learned that simple truth.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 12 Mar, 2006 01:09 pm
It's a dead end street, Frank. You give us no substantial reason why we are supposed to say, "I don't know," but insist we have to acknowledge it anyway. There is no reason to accept the possibility of the figment of someone's imagination, not today, not tomorrow.
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