Why the left cannot cheer this liberation

Really?

Which god?

And why can't it be criticized?






Well, I wouldn't be one of them. If Bush ever claimed 2 + 2 = 4, I'd want to know who helped him with the math.

Not only American political system is characterized by this. Mr. Sharon also has several vociferous opponents in Israel, but this did not prevent him from being re-elected last year.

Mr. Apisa, you told once that you were an Italian American. I do not think that I must explain to a Roman Catholic what is God and why He cannot be criticized. Your priest may do this much better than me.

steissd wrote:

We are talking about, FRANK, right??!??

frank a. pisa's priest, right!???!!

That's the funniest thing I have heard in a while!!!!


Thanks, steissd!!!

I know, Frank. I tripped on that god remark too and thought it funny. All gods but my god range, after all, from stupid to non-existent!

What I want to know is why Steissd thinks, in a democracy, one shouldn't criticize and ridicule anything one damn well wants to criticize and ridicule! National security, Steissd?

I got a kick out of that myself.

Apparently Steissd thinks all Italians are Roman Catholics.

In any case, if you do a Google search on my name -- besides finding several pieces about me and my several cousins of the same name -- you will find quite a few about an Italian missionary named Frank Apisa.

Perhaps that is what Steissd had in mind -- although I suspect he actually was just looking for a way to avoid the question. Smart move on his part.

"The American Heritage Dictionary" (steissd's favourite dictionary) ) explains:

"God: 1. God a. A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions. b. The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being. 2. A being of supernatural powers or attributes, believed in and worshiped by a people, especially a male deity thought to control some part of nature or reality. 3. An image of a supernatural being; an idol. 4. One that is worshiped, idealized, or followed: Money was their god. 5. A very handsome man. 6. A powerful ruler or despot. "

I'm sure, steissd will change his critics on Saddam from this very moment onwards! :wink:

I understand that some of the Italians may be Protestants as well, but as far as I know, majority of these people are Roman Catholics, both in Italy and abroad. Just like Poles, Irishmen, Spaniards, Portuguese and many others. If Mr. Apisa was of German origin, then chances of his being a Roman Catholic or a Protestant (most probably, a Lutheran) would be 50-50.
I do not understand either what can be funny in statement that there may be a Roman Catholic priest that serves the community in the area Mr. Apisa lives in.

steissd

Your guess about German religion is completely wrong:
Protestant 34%, Roman Catholic 34%, Muslim 3.7%, non or other 28.3%.

Protestants are about 50% Lutheran only.

When I refer to God (with the capital letter) it has nothing to do with Saddam Hussein; Saddam can be called "god" with small letter and in inverted commas. God I refer to is The Trinity: God the Father, God the Son and The Holy Spirit.
The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition

Walter, What caught my eye was your quote, "especially a male deity thought to control some part of nature or reality." To assume that god is a man must presume there is a female in god's universe. How funny! c.i.

Mr. Hinteler, are the 3.7 percent of Muslims ethnic Germans, or these are Turks having citizenship of the Federal Republic of Germany? Not anyone that has such a citizenship is an ethnic German: such a person may be a Serb, Jew or Chinese by ethnic origin, though, such people constitute a minority.
Well, about percentage of Roman Catholics and Protestants I was right, it is equal, though lower than 50. And since there are many different Protestant denomination, 50 percent of Lutherans among Protestants shows that this is the most widely spread Protestant denomination in Germany.

C.I., the encyclopedic quotation states that God is not a male deity. Therefore, no reason for existence of His female counterpart could be found.

steissd

Since the terrible Hitler regime, we don't look at "ethnic" background of our citizens.

Jews (120,000), e.g., are seen here as religion - not as nation.

Lutherans have some couple of different churches in Germany - the term just means that those people belong to a church, which is member of Lutheran Federation.

What I want to know is why Steissd thinks, in a democracy, one shouldn't criticize and ridicule anything one damn well wants to criticize and ridicule!
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Ceptin' those Dixie Chicks, right?

Mr. Hinteler, I do not advocate discrimination on the ethnic grounds either. But if someone is a Turk with a German citizenship, there is nothing wrong with this: their community may even get some assistance in preserving their specific culture in emigration (I do not mean religion, I refer to language, literature, music, etc.), not on expense of their integration into the German society, of course.
Regarding Jews, defined as a religious group: does this mean that if the Jew is an agnostic, atheist or convert to some other religion, he is no more defined as a Jew? It would be a great surprise: majority of Israeli Jews are secular, but they are defined as Jews by ethnic origin.
And referring to the ethnic Germans: I do not think that anyone being proud of his/her being the one is a Nazi. Contribution of the Germans into the global culture and civilization is well-known, and no one denies this. Hitlers come and go, any ethnos has some bloodthirsty dictator of such a type (like ethnic Georgian Stalin, ethnic Arab Saddam Hussein, or ethnic Frenchman Robespierre)...

Sofia, criticism is acceptable; ridiculing is not, it is insulting, and it does not serve any positive purpose. Criticism is intended to correct some real or imaginative flaws. What can be improved by ridiculing?

steissd, It's called a "gotcha@!" c.i.

Sorry, C.I., I have misunderstood you. What did you mean by "gotcha@"? Slang is not what I know perfectly...

just my curiosity steissd but what do you think is the american ethnicity?