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Why are you still a Christian?

 
 
echi
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jan, 2006 10:04 pm
Would you say that my interpretation and belief about the Resurrection are wrong, then?
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jan, 2006 10:21 pm
A new wineskin will be given for the new wine.

Without new wine....the old wineskin will do and will last as long as it needs.

Your interpretation is not wrong...it just is'nt convinced that.

"With God all things are possible".

We are to be given new bodies as well.
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echi
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jan, 2006 10:24 pm
hmmmm...

Bartikus--
Are you backing me up, now?
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jan, 2006 10:31 pm
echi,

I think what Bartikus is trying to tell you is that you don't seem to believe that God can do ANYTHING. Even raise from the dead.

You want me to tell you whether I think you are wrong or not? Well, I do not believe you have the correct interpretation. I believe Christ really died and was resurrected.

Right, Bartikus?
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echi
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jan, 2006 10:39 pm
Well, you're right. I haven't believed in that sort of a God in a very long time. I'm not sure if it is correct to say that I believe in God, at all. But if I were to assert a belief in God it would be in one that makes sense to me... not one that is outside of the realm of nature.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jan, 2006 10:41 pm
Well, let me ask you this. If God were what you would have Him to be would He be superior to everything?
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echi
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jan, 2006 10:46 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
He cannot die a spiritual death.

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I believe Christ really died and was resurrected.


I don't get it. Do you believe that Jesus died (physical death), or do you believe that Christ died (spiritual)?
I have been assuming that you believed that Jesus died and was resurrected, but that the spirit (Christ) is not subject to death.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jan, 2006 10:47 pm
The body died. The spirit did not die.
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echi
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jan, 2006 10:49 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
Well, let me ask you this. If God were what you would have Him to be would He be superior to everything?


Not exactly. God would not be a "He", firstly. And secondly, ummm... in what way do mean "superior"?
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jan, 2006 10:50 pm
Superior to you.
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echi
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jan, 2006 10:55 pm
I don't feel that I can accurately rate God on any kind of scale. I'm trying to think of a good description.
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echi
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jan, 2006 11:00 pm
How 'bout this: God is the essential nature of anything and everything.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jan, 2006 11:02 pm
Well, if that's what you believe that's what you believe.

Ok, is He the creator of everything?
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echi
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jan, 2006 11:06 pm
Yes. I believe that each moment is created. But the word "create" implies intent of a kind that I do not attribute to God.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jan, 2006 11:08 pm
Ok, let's back up a bit then.

Who or what is it that creates those moments?
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echi
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jan, 2006 11:08 pm
I do not think of God as having an ego. I don't think God thinks.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jan, 2006 11:10 pm
You don't think God thinks? If God didn't think wouldn't that make Him less than humans are?
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echi
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jan, 2006 11:11 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
Ok, let's back up a bit then.

Who or what is it that creates those moments?

Well, I don't know what "moments" really are. If I did know, then I might not have any reason to wonder about their origin.
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echi
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jan, 2006 11:13 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
You don't think God thinks? If God didn't think wouldn't that make Him less than humans are?

IMO, thinking usually gets us into trouble.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jan, 2006 11:14 pm
echi,

Do you always think on this level? You seem to have a need for complication? Maybe that's not the right word. But, you seem to be able to grasp things that are dang, can't think of the right word.

But, you don't seem to grasp the simple answers. Now, is that because you don't understand the simplicity or you just think it has to be complicated?
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