The Abramoff scandal investigation

I say a POX on both of their houses.

When a political party controlls the three branches of government, corruption will naturally result. Always has, always will.

As I've said many times, the only reason I voted for Al Gore and John Kerry in the last two elections is because George W. Bush and Dick Cheney scared the sh*t out of me. And I was right to worry.

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McGentrix wrote:

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Maybe it's time you stopped demonizing one group and tried to be a little more objective...

While I don't expect you to be familiar with all my posts, if you were, you'd know that I don't write along the lines of "Conservatives/Republicans/Right Wingers are just angry because _____."

That's what I mean by demonizing a group...

Cycloptichorn wrote:

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Also, I think most reasonable people see the inequity of applying this stink about the lobbyists with Democrats trying to call the Republicans a party of corruption is clearly hypocrisy.

bullsh*t. There is no comprable period in the history of the Democratic party.

I really hate to do this, because i don't think the member Okie deserves a break in any of these exchanges . . .

. . . however, i am always opposed to forgetting or distorting history, especially for partisan reasons.

For a comparable period in the recent history of the Democratic Party, go do an online search for "Koreagate." For a truly embarrassing period in the history of Democratic politics (and a time when the Republicans were just as bad) search for Tammany Hall and Jay Gould.

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Also, I think most reasonable people see the inequity of applying this stink about the lobbyists with Democrats trying to call the Republicans a party of corruption is clearly hypocrisy.

bullsh*t. There is no comprable period in the history of the Democratic party.

The leaders of both of your branches of congress are under investigation, as well as many members;

The State branches of the Republican party are under investigation in several states;

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The Executive branch has come under fire, with more 'advisors' to go. Bet on it.

I can't remember a period in which corruption pervaded the Democratic party to this extent. ANY party to this extent. It is accurate to say that 11 years of Republican control (5 of supercontrol) and the K street project have combined to create a culture of corruption.

Cycloptichorn

Does the name Rostenkowski ring a bell?
Does the name Toricelli ring a bell?
Does the name James Traficant ring a bell?

I seem to recall that when these 3 men,especially Toricelli,got caught,the dems were the ones crying that "everyone does it".
Why are they now complaining that the repubs are using the same tactic?

While there's a sense in which the canard with with the Republican faithful comfort ourselves--that it would be even worse if the Democrats ran Congress--is true, it's also the case that it does not much seem as if Republicans run Congress, either. Indeed, with few exceptions, the Democrats could dust off the Contract With America and run on it this year.

Does the name Rostenkowski ring a bell?
Does the name Toricelli ring a bell?
Does the name James Traficant ring a bell?

I seem to recall that when these 3 men,especially Toricelli,got caught,the dems were the ones crying that "everyone does it".
Why are they now complaining that the repubs are using the same tactic?

It's a reminder C.I. Of why we are in the ME and what terrorists are capable of. We must never forget that. I know many here appear to have forgotten.