The US, UN & Iraq III

dys' quote: "is there going to be a new Bush inspiried definition of "liberate" in the lexicon of english usage?" We first must decide who was "liberated." It's too early to tell. c.i.

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I think you're the nattering nabob of negativism here, Perception!

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Tartarin wrote:

I think you're the nattering nabob of negativism here, Perception!

...love it when you talk dirty, Tartarin

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snood wrote:

Tartarin wrote:
I think you're the nattering nabob of negativism here, Perception!

...love it when you talk dirty, Tartarin

This is very enjoyable dialogue, however, it leads me to assert that I won't be taking direction to 'address the topic' from snood forthwith. :wink:

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HofT: Um. It was a joke using a few words I found in OED, you can look them up and maybe you will see the humore :wink: , maybe not.

Meanwhile, please do not bother Goggle-ing my screen name, I am not the Joe Nation of the California Legislature, and you need not spend any energy attacking his policies, voter base or crew(?). (Does he have a crew?) Cool

Do members of the California Legislature have crews? I don't know, I'm asking, but don't answer here because I think I take your point that my joke was off-topic. I shall henceforth try to be incomprehensibly on topic.

Sorry to the others for the digression.

Nice to meet'cha.

Joe

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Okay - I can look it up, but what is quesam and quebas?

Funny how negative impulses do seem to come from the very ones making the accusations - usually to people trying to find a positive. Nattering nabobs of negativism - tartarin, you've been reading old republican utterances.

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perception-information is neither positive nor negative, its just---information (unlike Faux News which is disinformation)

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Wolf has just posted this in-the-mid-east "Question Time" discussion (audio) of the invasion of Iraq in another forum. I'm listening to it at the moment and highly recommend the FREE and intelligent discussion, if only to remember how INDEPENDENT media can insist that government officials (and others) answer (and not duck out of) direct questions:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/progs/question_time/latest.ram

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Below is a short discussion of how humans perceive reality:

When you look at an object, light rays are reflected from the object to the cornea, which is where the miracle begins. The light rays are bent, refracted and focused by the cornea, lens, and vitreous. The lens' job is to make sure the rays come to a sharp focus on the retina. The resulting image on the retina is upside-down. Here at the retina, the light rays are converted to electrical impulses which are then transmitted through the optic nerve, to the brain, where the image is translated and perceived in an upright position!

Let's concentrate on the last sentence----"electrical impulses which are then transmitted through the optic nerve, to the brain, where the image is translated and perceived in the upright position"

I think I have just detected a new species on this forum where the brain never makes the correction to the upright position.

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Takes one to know one, Perception!

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Dys wrote:

perception-information is neither positive nor negative, its just---information (unlike Faux News which is disinformation)

Yeah right----and Al Jazeera gives the straight of it ----

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perception, your version of reality, a mechanistic one generally discarded along with the "clockmaker in the heavens" mentality of the 18th century, the consequence resulting in your attitude that it is adult to accept reality - to knuckle under and make your way in it, putting your personal interests first. This may be understandable but it is not intelligent, for it stands directly in the path of true human progress. It puts pure reasoning in a bad light, seeing it not as the vital duty of human intelligence to follow truth but as pointless abstract thinking which can have no effect excepting to harm the Machine-prospects of the thinker and his dependents.

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Sofia wrote:

snood wrote:
Tartarin wrote:
I think you're the nattering nabob of negativism here, Perception!

...love it when you talk dirty, Tartarin

This is very enjoyable dialogue, however, it leads me to assert that I won't be taking direction to 'address the topic' from snood forthwith. :wink:

c'est tragedy - oh well! Not that you were taking my directions to start with....

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Dyslexia wrote:

...unlike Faux News which is disinformation...

Dyslexia, have you got any examples of the Fox News broadcast that contained false information (I do not mean errors, I mean deliberate presentation of deceitful information, e.g., telling of events that have never happened)?

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Tell us all about pure reasoning Dys ----- You and Kant.

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dyslexia wrote:

perception, your version of reality, a mechanistic one generally discarded along with the "clockmaker in the heavens" mentality of the 18th century, the consequence resulting in your attitude that it is adult to accept reality - to knuckle under and make your way in it, putting your personal interests first. This may be understandable but it is not intelligent, for it stands directly in the path of true human progress. It puts pure reasoning in a bad light, seeing it not as the vital duty of human intelligence to follow truth but as pointless abstract thinking which can have no effect excepting to harm the Machine-prospects of the thinker and his dependents.

damn. wish I'd said that.

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We're waiting for all those examples of (DISINFORMATION) Dys but of course when challenged for specifics you retreat back into your "cliff house"

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damn. wish I'd said that

It's probably just as well somebody doesn't tell you why you didn't.

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Dys -- That's the best and final-est response to Perception I've yet seen. Wouldn't it be nice if...

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Dys you will force me to revise my estimate of you upwards----first you put yourself in the same league with Steven Hawking with your wonderfull explanation of the event horizon causing the phenomenon to lose not only it's existence but it's history as well.

Now you've placed yourself on the same level with Kant and his critique of pure reason-----you really are gifted. Every university on the planet must have called to bestow an honorary PHD on you.

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