The US, UN & Iraq III

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The thot plickens .......


Published on Sunday, June 22, 2003 by Reuters
Iraq Oil Pipeline Fire Blamed on Sabotage
by Alistair Lyon


BAGHDAD - An oil fire raged Sunday after saboteurs blew up a vital pipeline, threatening supplies to Baghdad's main refinery and fresh torment for drivers in the capital, Iraqi Oil Ministry officials said.

It was the second major fire to damage Iraqi oil pipelines this month. U.S. officials blamed the first on a gas leak on the main export pipeline from the Kirkuk oilfields to Turkey.

"This incident is an act of sabotage. The pipeline was blown up deliberately," said one Oil Ministry official of the latest blast. He did not elaborate and asked not to be named.


An oil pipeline burns near the highway at Hit, Iraq, 150 kilometers (90 miles) northwest of Baghdad, following an explosion Sunday June 22, 2003. The explosion, which is still under investigation, came at a time when Iraq resumed oil exports following the war that ousted Saddam Hussein. Iraq, which exported around two million barrels per day before the US war to oust Saddam Hussein, was due to resume oil sales on Sunday from storage tanks in Turkey. (AP Photo/Ali Haider) )
A Reuters correspondent at the desert scene said orange fireballs and thick black smoke were billowing from the damaged pipeline near a metal pylon at least 12 hours after a U.S. patrol reported the blast at 11 p.m. (1900 GMT) Saturday.




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Who elected these guys?



How We Got Into This Imperial Pickle: A PNAC Primer

By: Bernard Weiner

05/27/03: Recently, I was the guest on a radio talk-show hosted by a thoroughly decent far-right Republican. I got verbally battered, but returned fire and, I think, held my own. Toward the end of the hour, I mentioned that the National Security Strategy -- promulgated by the Bush Administration in September 2002 -- now included attacking possible future competitors first, assuming regional hegemony by force of arms, controlling energy resources around the globe, maintaining a permanent-war strategy, etc.

"I'm not making up this stuff," I said. "It's all talked about openly by the neo-conservatives of the Project for the New American Century -- who now are in charge of America's military and foreign policy -- and published as official U.S. doctrine in the National Security Strategy of the United States of America."

The talk-show host seemed to gulp, and then replied: "If you really can demonstrate all that, you probably can deny George Bush a second term in 2004."

Two things became apparent in that exchange:

1) Even a well-educated, intelligent radio commentator was unaware of some of this information; and,

2) Once presented with it, this conservative icon understood immediately the implications of what would happen if the American voting public found out about these policies.



The evil within

Gelis - So, can you demonstrate all that? Can anyone? I know quite well how much many of you would like to deny Bush the second term he seems to have fully sewn up. Well, here's your opportunity. Any takers?

Well, in a word, yes.

If he does what she says the same person said she should ask him if he did ..... case closed!

scrat

This information is available now in a thousand different places, even if you don't want to bother going and reading the documents. God knows how many links and discussions related to exactly this matter you've bumped into here.

There are two relevant questions:

first, have these people said what the fellow above says they have said...that's the easy one, but it's what you've missed countless times.

second, how many people like you are out there, who either do not have the intellectual courage to admit you've bought a ticket on a train going to the wrong place, or who are just too lazy or frightened to even look at your ticket.

No offense, but although that looks like English, I have no idea what you mean. (Seriously, what the heck were you trying to write???)

Coward, Scrat.

Can you translate it Tartarin? Insults get you no where, and just make people lose respect for you.

Well, you're safe there, bud. somebody'd have to respect you, first.

McG - Fascinating isn't it that failing to understand something someone wrote makes me a "coward". Now, perhaps that failure to understand is due to some inadequacy on my part, but I think it would be a stretch to suggest that I am somehow afraid to understand it.

Tart - Don't worry too much, you can't lose any more respect in my eyes than you have already lost.

Gelis - I still don't understand what you wrote, and would still like to understand what you meant, if that is possible.

Scrat - it's hard enough deciphering stuff you put in - why should it be important that anyone do your work for you? A little thought will explain it to you. We all seem to understand gelis. Turning to McG for help? The one who chooses an avatar of a man who hides, but appears with a clenched fist? Good luck.

On with it, tart. You have my undying respect. No substitute for a brain that's working.

End the insults and get back to the topic of discussion please!

See , now ya'll have done it again - we're being moderated!!!!!!!!!

All I have to add is that I finally saw "Ice Age", so now I know what Scrat's avatar is all about....

Scrat, ask your prezadent ....... orrrrrrrr go ask Cheney ..... when he gets off the phone with Haliburton .. ask Rummy when hes feeling small ...

I must say this is the most delightful conversation I have ever had with you..


One pill makes you larger
And one pill makes you small,
And the ones that mother gives you
Don't do anything at all.
Go ask Alice
When she's ten feet tall.

And if you go chasing rabbits
And you know you're going to fall,
Tell 'em a hookah smoking caterpillar
Has given you the call.
Call Alice
When she was just small.

When the men on the chessboard
Get up and tell you where to go
And you've just had some kind of mushroom
And your mind is moving low.
Go ask Alice
I think she'll know.

When logic and proportion
Have fallen softly dead,
And the White Knight is talking backwards
And the Red Queen's "off with her head!"
Remember what the dormouse said:
"Feed your head. Feed your head. Feed your head"

A couple of things: First, a bit of the debate from British Government re: anthrax
http://www.newamericancentury.info/wmd01.htm

Secondly, under what legal doctrine does the USA claim the right to kill Saddam now that military operations have been declared at an end

and could someone tell me upon what legal doctrine we are shooting at convoys in SYRIA?

It's the doctrine of ass-kicking.

I was gonna credit McGentrix with one of the funniest things I've read in days, and then I had to go and do a web search. Dang thing's all over the internet.

This is one of my favs -

found it
... here ...



oh, and McG, thanks for being the reason I found ... these guys ...

Ebeth and all others ...... here is a pretty extensive site fulla links for your perusal.


http://www.betterworldlinks.org/index.htm