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FIFA World Cup 2006 [R]

 
 
dadpad
 
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Reply Thu 22 Jun, 2006 03:15 pm
what does it take to get some decent refereeing. Hand balls, rugby tackles on the box, 3 yellow cards???????? absolutly rediculouse. I'm not an expert in this game but really..................
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Thu 22 Jun, 2006 03:24 pm
I think Australia-Croatia was the worst refereeing in the WC, so far. Let's hope it was the worst, period.

Some say Little Dracula's refereeing (Ivory Coast-Serbia Montenegro) was just as bad, but in an unimportant game.

But I think the WC refs have improved since Korea/Japan 2002.
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margo
 
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Reply Thu 22 Jun, 2006 04:21 pm
fbaezer wrote:
fbaezer wrote:
Could we please have Mr. Graham Poll as referee against Argentina?

I mean, this guys act out even more than we do, but they don't get the yellow cards. They commit hard fouls and nothing happens...

We need an impartial ref. I think an Englishman can do wonders!

:wink:


Boy, was I wrong!
Terrible referee. He didn't make himself respected by the players in the vibrant Australia-Croatia game.
He couldn't tell what happened on the last play (a penalty? a goal? an invalid goal?) so washed his hands and decided the match was over.
He didn't see two clear penalties in favor of Australia and let himself being pushed around by the Croats.

The Croats were good warriors, but the Aussies were better, and deserved to qualify.
Very very exciting game.

This was the sport they had lacked a bit. But now they're on the WC second round.

Can anybody deny that Australia is, overall, the best sporting country in the world?


Yep the referee was crap! 3 yellow cards against Simunic - and still on the field! Lost the plot entirely.

But - a draw / tie / whatever is good enough - and now we face the Azzura! My local (mostly Italian) community will erupt!

Certainly the Aussies sports are in just about everything going!

And made it to the next round - despite the USA coach saying we were laughing stock who didn't deserve to be there! <ugly Americans are everywhere!>
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 22 Jun, 2006 04:24 pm
Go, Italy!!!
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 22 Jun, 2006 04:25 pm
Lord Ellpus wrote:
nimh wrote:
Absolutely no anti Indian prejudice? You mean that there's no people calling anyone brown-skinned "Paki" anymore? Or more like, if they knew someone were Indian and not Pakistani, they wouldnt act with prejudice?

<sceptical>

Steve mentions Indians specifically nimh, and I tend to agree with him, at least in my neck of the woods.

Well, just that he wrote that "there is absolutely no [..] anti Indian prejudice that I can discern in England. These days the racist abuse is entirely one directional, i.e. anti English", and that definitely seems off, as a statement.

Just a random dig around the EUMC website yields this, for example: going on numbers from 1993-1999 included in the EUMC report National Analytical Study on Racist Violence and Crime - the UK, Indians in the UK are 6 to 19 times as likely to be a victim of a racially motivated incident than white Brits (click the thumbs below for graph). Not time for the whites to assume the role of the racial victim quite yet.

http://images4.pictiger.com/thumbs/36/88a730a8b3ddd277294be6422dcbfe36.th.gif

http://images4.pictiger.com/thumbs/5b/7b200821e491a7a0dcee7a2d40ef995b.th.gif

Off-topic though, so I'm copying this post into the Immigration & Racism in the UK and the US thread.
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margo
 
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Reply Thu 22 Jun, 2006 04:27 pm
ossobuco wrote:
Go, Italy!!!



pppbbbbfffttthhh!!!!!!
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 22 Jun, 2006 04:33 pm
nimh wrote:
Off-topic though, so I'm copying this post into the Immigration & Racism in the UK and the US thread.

HERE
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hingehead
 
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Reply Thu 22 Jun, 2006 04:50 pm
My usual post match commentary.

Yes the refereeing was woeful, but he occasionally got things right that I didn't see - particularly the penalty he gave that Craig Moore scored off - I thought it was for a foul on Cahill and I couldn't see how it could be - until the replay showed the hand ball - at least he saw one!

Sterjovski showed some great skills (I thought he was out of his depth the last couple of time I've seen him, even though he tried hard). Neill and Moore strong, Kewell worked his ring off again and the joy on his face at the goal was palpable (and yes it was very close to offside IMHO).

Poor Kalacz.

What a bench we have; Aloisi, Bresciano and big Josh reeneverated us.

Emerton out for the Azzuri - I wonder if that means Lazirides is in?

Chipperfield played a lot better but I still think he can be a statue at the back.

Usual plaudits to the rest (Grella, Viduka, Culina, Cahill)

Can't wait to see FIFA response to Simunic's three yellow cards!

And what the heck happened at the end? I reckon it was a goal.
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 22 Jun, 2006 04:51 pm
Twisted Evil
wandeljw wrote:
I am glad you still have a team to root for, Freeduck. I guess I will now be rooting for Deutschland (I was born there). If Germany wins and nimh gets irritated, it will all be worth it! Smile
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hingehead
 
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Reply Thu 22 Jun, 2006 04:53 pm
And yes, I thought putting your arms around the waist of an attacker and pulling him to the ground in the penalty box constituted a penalty. But what do I know?
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Thu 22 Jun, 2006 04:57 pm
margo wrote:
... despite the USA coach saying we were laughing stock who didn't deserve to be there! <ugly>



Bruce Arena is the kind of American all non-Americans love to hate.
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Reply Thu 22 Jun, 2006 04:59 pm
ossobuco wrote:
Go, Italy!!!


Osso, I know you're a tagliatelle nut, who loves Firenza and all that architecture, but do you know how reviled the Italian team is around Europe?

Just as an example, Totti (their so called star player) was interviewed the other day...and he said "For Italy to improve, we need to return to our cynical best".

Italian football, IMO, has dragged the whole game down to another level. They have dived, feigned injury, spat at opponents and done their utmost to get an opponent sent off, for as long as I can remember.

When a Brit/German/French team went to play them on their home ground as far back as the 70's, the visitors would be lucky not to have a man off with a broken leg, and two more sent off because they reacted to a large lump of phlegm hitting them in the face, when the ref wasn't looking.

They are good looking boys but just watch them closely, especially if they return to their normal "cynical" tactics.

I am hoping that they get thoroughly trounced in the next round, so that they can all return home to help the Italian Police with their current investigation into wholesale football bribery and corruption within their Italain football association.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Thu 22 Jun, 2006 04:59 pm
fbaezer wrote:

Bruce Arena is the kind of American all non-Americans love to hate.


And his daughter Tina can't sing.
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 22 Jun, 2006 05:01 pm
Ghana's only the third African team ever to reach the final 16, after Nigeria ('94) and Senegal ('02).

Surprisingly outspoken judgement on the FIFA World Cup site: "[Ghana] played well in their opening game and did not deserve to lose to Italy."
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Reply Thu 22 Jun, 2006 05:04 pm
I said at the beginning that Ghana was the African team that played like Brazil.
When they meet Brazil, it should be quite a game.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 22 Jun, 2006 05:06 pm
No, I didn't know all that, L'ellpus. On the other hand, maybe I had some inkling. Read a book a few years ago on a southern italian soccer team...
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 22 Jun, 2006 05:14 pm
Watching the highlights... that last goal of Brazil against Japan was sure a beauty!
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 22 Jun, 2006 05:19 pm
On that book, here it is - complete with a wide variety of views on it, mostly dumps. I did learn from these reviews that another writer I do like wrote a book on italian soccer - Timothy Parks, who is English and lives in Verona. Might have to pick that up..

The Miracle of Castel di Sangro
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 22 Jun, 2006 05:47 pm
That Croatian coach sure's a funny one, in his nice suit ... how he jumped in the arms of his player or assistant at both goals, with his feet up, legs wrapped around him..
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hingehead
 
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Reply Thu 22 Jun, 2006 06:07 pm
He does good kicking of water bottles too.

Guus has been watching Lleyton Hewitt videos.
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