Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Fri 12 Apr, 2013 12:18 pm
@neologist,
You don't get the point...let me go on full steam...God is restricted to God ! God being everything is restricted to being everything...the power of God cannot be restricted in the sense that there is no other power outside of everything power to counter power or restrict the power of God...Nothingness is nothing...and the absolute is restricted only to itself....that said God as a timeless Whole is powerless once DEFINED COMPLETE and PERFECT !
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Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Fri 12 Apr, 2013 12:32 pm
...sometimes I wish I met William Lane Craig in one of those pilgrimages he does around some University's with his lecturing s...that would prove an interesting exercise...the Science blokes are just not equipped to tackle him in his own game...they know nothing of Metaphysics, obviously they trump and are caught in the lamest contradictions...
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pataria
 
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Reply Tue 30 Apr, 2013 05:25 am
@neologist,
GOD acronym for GENERATOR, OPERATOR, DESTROYER.
GOD can't be defined.
neologist
 
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Reply Tue 30 Apr, 2013 05:29 am
@pataria,
pataria wrote:
GOD acronym for GENERATOR, OPERATOR, DESTROYER.
GOD can't be defined.
You just did. Whether you are totally correct is another question.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 30 Apr, 2013 10:12 am
@neologist,
However it is true; you must provide evidence to the contrary, not just ask the question.
JLNobody
 
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Reply Tue 30 Apr, 2013 11:34 am
@cicerone imposter,
How complete a definition is a mere synonym? I guess the most adequate synomym* for god is "creator" (closest to Pataria's "generator"?).

*(what Pataria meant instead of acronym)
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 30 Apr, 2013 11:45 am
@JLNobody,
A "creator" has never been proven. The universe continues to expand. Who's the creator?
neologist
 
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Reply Tue 30 Apr, 2013 12:55 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
However it is true; you must provide evidence to the contrary, not just ask the question.
The question (suggestion) is 'define God' . Pataria did, more eloquently than many who have posted, less specifically than others. What's your point?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 30 Apr, 2013 01:24 pm
@neologist,
Quote:
pataria wrote:
GOD acronym for GENERATOR, OPERATOR, DESTROYER.
GOD can't be defined.



You,
Quote:
You just did. Whether you are totally correct is another question.


Why a question?
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neologist
 
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Reply Tue 30 Apr, 2013 01:27 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
A "creator" has never been proven.
Real proof might prove painful. But, yes, no irrefutable arguments have yet to be advanced. Nor has it been possible to prove the negative.
cicerone imposter wrote:
The universe continues to expand.
Irrelevant.
cicerone imposter wrote:
Who's the creator?
Good question. Deserves an answer.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 30 Apr, 2013 02:27 pm
@neologist,
If you know anything about logic, it's almost impossible to prove a negative.

I prefer to lean on the side of "it doesn't exist if I or nobody else can't observe it."

neologist
 
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Reply Tue 30 Apr, 2013 04:12 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
If you know anything about logic, it's almost impossible to prove a negative.

I prefer to lean on the side of "it doesn't exist if I or nobody else can't observe it."
It's also nearly impossible to parse a double negative. I think you mean if you can't observe something, it must not exist. But not all observations are direct, so what are your standards?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 30 Apr, 2013 04:26 pm
@neologist,
Having problems with English?

I wrote,
Quote:
... or nobody else can't observe it


Quote:
ob·serve
/əbˈzərv/
Verb
Notice or perceive (something) and register it as being significant.
Watch (someone or something) carefully and attentively.
spendius
 
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Reply Tue 30 Apr, 2013 04:45 pm
@neologist,
Quote:
so what are your standards?


ci's standards are the first thing that comes into his head.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 30 Apr, 2013 04:55 pm
@spendius,
And your standards are established in your local pub. Drunk Drunk Drunk Drunk Drunk Drunk Drunk Drunk Drunk Drunk Drunk
neologist
 
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Reply Tue 30 Apr, 2013 05:13 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Having problems with English?

I wrote,
Quote:
... or nobody else can't observe it

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neologist
 
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Reply Tue 30 Apr, 2013 09:29 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
And your standards are established in your local pub. Drunk Drunk Drunk Drunk Drunk Drunk Drunk Drunk Drunk Drunk Drunk
Save one of them for me, CI. I could be needing it soon.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 30 Apr, 2013 09:47 pm
@neologist,
Any time you're in the San Francisco Bay Area, just let me know. We can share a few b.s. time with some brew.
neologist
 
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Reply Tue 30 Apr, 2013 10:26 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Don't get south all that much lately. Carole and I spend a lot of time traveling the Pacific Northwest. But, if you're ever in Seattle. . . .
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tenderfoot
 
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Reply Wed 1 May, 2013 08:13 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

Quote:
so what are your standards?


ci's standards are the first thing that comes into his head.

Better than the first thing that comes into your pub.
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