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Senate to go into closed session over Iraq

 
 
Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2005 08:56 pm
Democrats Force Senate into Closed Session over Iraq Data
The Associated Press
Tuesday 01 November 2005

Washington - Democrats forced the Republican-controlled Senate into an unusual closed session Tuesday, demanding answers about intelligence that led to the Iraq war.

In a speech on the Senate floor, Democratic leader Harry Reid said the American people and U.S. troops deserved to know the details of how the United States became engaged in the war, particularly in light of the indictment of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff.

Reid demanded the Senate go into closed session. With a second by Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., the public was ordered out of the chamber, the lights were dimmed, senators filed to their seats on the floor and the doors were closed. No vote is required in such circumstances.

"The Libby indictment provides a window into what this is really all about, how this administration manufactured and manipulated intelligence in order to sell the war in Iraq and attempted to destroy those who dared to challenge its actions," Reid said before the doors were closed.

Libby resigned Friday after being indicted on charges of obstruction of justice, making false statements and perjury in an investigation by a special prosecutor into the unauthorized leak of a CIA agent's identity.

Democrats contend that the unmasking of Valerie Plame was retribution for her husband, Joseph Wilson, publicly challenging the Bush administration's contention that Iraq was seeking to purchase uranium from Africa. That claim was part of the White House's justification for going to war.

Sen. Trent Lott, R-Miss., said Reid was making "some sort of stink about Scooter Libby and the CIA leak."

A former majority leader, Lott said a closed session is appropriate for such overarching matters as impeachment and chemical weapons - the two topics that last sent the senators into such sessions.

In addition, Lott said, Reid's move violated the Senate's tradition of courtesy and consent. But there was nothing in Senate rules enabling Republicans to thwart Reid's effort.

As Reid spoke, Majority Leader Bill Frist met in the back of the chamber with a half-dozen senior GOP senators, including Intelligence Committee Chairman Pat Roberts, who bore the brunt of Reid's criticism. Reid said Roberts reneged on a promise to fully investigate whether the administration exaggerated and manipulated intelligence leading up to the war.



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Senator Harry Reid's Statement


Tuesday 01 November 2005

Sen. Reid just took the senate into closed session to discuss the body's failure to pursue 'phase two' of the senate intel investigation into the Iraq WMD intel failure.

Below the fold are his remarks, as prepared for delivery, before taking the senate into closed session.

"This past weekend, we witnessed the indictment of I. Lewis Libby, the Vice President's Chief of Staff and a senior Advisor to President Bush. Libby is the first sitting White House staffer to be indicted in 135 years.

"This indictment raises very serious charges. It asserts this Administration engaged in actions that both harmed our national security and are morally repugnant.

"The decision to place U.S. soldiers in harm's way is the most significant responsibility the Constitution invests in the Congress.

"The Libby indictment provides a window into what this is really about: how the Administration manufactured and manipulated intelligence in order to sell the war in Iraq and attempted to destroy those who dared to challenge its actions.

"As a result of its improper conduct, a cloud now hangs over this Administration. This cloud is further darkened by the Administration's mistakes in prisoner abuse scandal, Hurricane Katrina, and the cronyism and corruption in numerous agencies.

"And, unfortunately, it must be said that a cloud also hangs over this Republican-controlled Congress for its unwillingness to hold this Republican Administration accountable for its misdeeds on all of these issues.

"Let's take a look back at how we got here with respect to Iraq Mr. President. The record will show that within hours of the terrorist attacks on 9/11, senior officials in this Administration recognized these attacks could be used as a pretext to invade Iraq.

"The record will also show that in the months and years after 9/11, the Administration engaged in a pattern of manipulation of the facts and retribution against anyone who got in its way as it made the case for attacking Iraq.

"There are numerous examples of how the Administration misstated and manipulated the facts as it made the case for war. Administration statements on Saddam's alleged nuclear weapons capabilities and ties with Al Qaeda represent the best examples of how it consistently and repeatedly manipulated the facts.

"The American people were warned time and again by the President, the Vice President, and the current Secretary of State about Saddam's nuclear weapons capabilities. The Vice President said Iraq "has reconstituted its nuclear weapons." Playing upon the fears of Americans after September 11, these officials and others raised the specter that, left unchecked, Saddam could soon attack America with nuclear weapons.

"Obviously we know now their nuclear claims were wholly inaccurate. But more troubling is the fact that a lot of intelligence experts were telling the Administration then that its claims about Saddam's nuclear capabilities were false.

"The situation was very similar with respect to Saddam's links to Al Qaeda. The Vice President told the American people, "We know he's out trying once again to produce nuclear weapons and we know he has a longstanding relationship with various terrorist groups including the Al Qaeda organization."

"The Administration's assertions on this score have been totally discredited. But again, the Administration went ahead with these assertions in spite of the fact that the government's top experts did not agree with these claims.

"What has been the response of this Republican-controlled Congress to the Administration's manipulation of intelligence that led to this protracted war in Iraq? Basically nothing. Did the Republican-controlled Congress carry out its constitutional obligations to conduct oversight? No. Did it support our troops and their families by providing them the answers to many important questions? No. Did it even attempt to force this Administration to answer the most basic questions about its behavior? No.

"Unfortunately the unwillingness of the Republican-controlled Congress to exercise its oversight responsibilities is not limited to just Iraq. We see it with respect to the prisoner abuse scandal. We see it with respect to Katrina. And we see it with respect to the cronyism and corruption that permeates this Administration.

"Time and time again, this Republican-controlled Congress has consistently chosen to put its political interests ahead of our national security. They have repeatedly chosen to protect the Republican Administration rather than get to the bottom of what happened and why.

"There is also another disturbing pattern here, namely about how the Administration responded to those who challenged its assertions. Time and again this Administration has actively sought to attack and undercut those who dared to raise questions about its preferred course.

"For example, when General Shinseki indicated several hundred thousand troops would be needed in Iraq, his military career came to an end. When then OMB Director Larry Lindsay suggested the cost of this war would approach $200 billion, his career in the Administration came to an end. When U.N. Chief Weapons Inspector Hans Blix challenged conclusions about Saddam's WMD capabilities, the Administration pulled out his inspectors. When Nobel Prize winner and IAEA head Mohammed el-Baridei raised questions about the Administration's claims of Saddam's nuclear capabilities, the Administration attempted to remove him from his post. When Joe Wilson stated that there was no attempt by Saddam to acquire uranium from Niger, the Administration launched a vicious and coordinated campaign to demean and discredit him, going so far as to expose the fact that his wife worked as a CIA agent.

"Given this Administration's pattern of squashing those who challenge its misstatements, what has been the response of this Republican-controlled Congress? Again, absolutely nothing. And with their inactions, they provide political cover for this Administration at the same time they keep the truth from our troops who continue to make large sacrifices in Iraq.

"This behavior is unacceptable. The toll in Iraq is as staggering as it is solemn. More than 2,000 Americans have lost their lives. Over 90 Americans have paid the ultimate sacrifice this month alone - the fourth deadliest month since the war began. More than 15,000 have been wounded. More than 150,000 remain in harm's way. Enormous sacrifices have been and continue to be made.

"The troops and the American people have a right to expect answers and accountability worthy of that sacrifice. For example, 40 Senate Democrats wrote a substantive and detailed letter to the President asking four basic questions about the Administration's Iraq policy and received a four sentence answer in response. These Senators and the American people deserve better.

"They also deserve a searching and comprehensive investigation about how the Bush Administration brought this country to war. Key questions that need to be answered include:

How did the Bush Administration assemble its case for war against Iraq?

Who did Bush Administration officials listen to and who did they ignore?

How did senior Administration officials manipulate or manufacture intelligence presented to the Congress and the American people?

What was the role of the White House Iraq Group or WHIG, a group of senior White House officials tasked with marketing the war and taking down its critics?

How did the Administration coordinate its efforts to attack individuals who dared to challenge the Administration's assertions?

Why has the Administration failed to provide Congress with the documents that will shed light on their misconduct and misstatements?

"Unfortunately the Senate committee that should be taking the lead in providing these answers is not. Despite the fact that the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee publicly committed to examine many of these questions more than one and a half years ago, he has chosen not to keep this commitment. Despite the fact that he restated that commitment earlier this year on national television, he has still done nothing.

"At this point, we can only conclude he will continue to put politics ahead of our national security. If he does anything at this point, I suspect he will play political games by producing an analysis that fails to answer any of these important questions. Instead, if history is any guide, this analysis will attempt to disperse and deflect blame away from the Administration.

"We demand that the Intelligence Committee and other committees in this body with jurisdiction over these matters carry out a full and complete investigation immediately as called for by Democrats in the committee's annual intelligence authorization report. Our troops and the American people have sacrificed too much. It is time this Republican-controlled Congress put the interests of the American people ahead of their own political interests."
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littlek
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2005 09:53 pm
Wowsa, how often does this happen?
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 12:51 am
bookmark
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 03:50 am
littlek wrote:
Wowsa, how often does this happen?


From what I can gather, it's a fairly rare occurrence, littlek. Apparently the Democrats want to thrash out some things that would involve classified material not to be made available to the general public.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 07:16 am
Gee...how timely.

Maybe they should have done this 3 YEARS AGO???

More grandstanding by a party of losers.
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squinney
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 07:20 am
Or maybe the current administration shouldn't have cooked the evidence and made stuff up.

Now there's a thought!
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 07:31 am
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woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 09:00 am
squinney wrote:
Or maybe the current administration shouldn't have cooked the evidence and made stuff up.

Now there's a thought!


Still living in fantasy land I see.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 09:27 am
Merry Andrew wrote:
littlek wrote:
Wowsa, how often does this happen?


From what I can gather, it's a fairly rare occurrence, littlek. Apparently the Democrats want to thrash out some things that would involve classified material not to be made available to the general public.


Well, except they didn't do anything of the sort. It appears it was all grandstanding. Their reasoning was they wanted to kickstart another "Bush Lied, People Died" commission to investigate pre-war intelligence. All they accomplished in the 2-hour closed door session was to get assurances that Intelligence Committee Chairman Pat Roberts would complete the second phase of his committee's investigation of the prewar intelligence. But according to Roberts, this work was nearly complete, would probably be finished next week, and Senate Democrats knew it.

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The committee worked on the second phase of the review, Roberts said, but it has not been finished. He blamed Democrats for the delays and said his staff had informed their Democratic counterparts on Monday that the committee hoped to work on and complete the second phase next week. "Now we have this ... stunt 24 hours after their staff was informed that we were moving to closure next week," a clearly angry Roberts told reporters. "If that's not politics, I'm not standing here."


LINK

How about the New York Times' headline: "Partisan Quarrel Forces Senators to Bar the Doors." HUH? How about: "Reid Throws Tantrum; Closes Senate Doors." Much more accurate.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 09:32 am
"They have repeatedly chosen to protect the Republican administration rather than get to the bottom of what happened and why," Democratic leader Harry Reid said.
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 09:37 am
Ticomaya wrote:

How about the New York Times' headline: "Partisan Quarrel Forces Senators to Bar the Doors." HUH? How about: "Reid Throws Tantrum; Closes Senate Doors." Much more accurate.

How about "Roberts Throws Tantrum at Legit Maneuver"? Even more accurate.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 09:40 am
Roberts has stonewalled long enough. He certainly owes America an explanation for shirking his duty.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 09:51 am
Merry Andrew wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:

How about the New York Times' headline: "Partisan Quarrel Forces Senators to Bar the Doors." HUH? How about: "Reid Throws Tantrum; Closes Senate Doors." Much more accurate.

How about "Roberts Throws Tantrum at Legit Maneuver"? Even more accurate.


Legit in the sense it followed the Senate rules, but completely unnecessary, both because the intelligence report was being finished and he knew it, and because there was nothing to discuss that required secrecy. Dems come out smelling bad on this one, particularly because they didn't confer with Republicans ahead of time.

How about this headline:

"Inconsequential Senate Dems Suffer Meltdown; Close Senate Doors"
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 09:57 am
I might agree that it was politically motivated, but I think it was a good move in that sense. One thing Republicans do very well is attack people when they're down to keep them from getting back up. Dems might not be as good at it, but what they're essentially doing is slowing any recovery the Repubs might be having this week due to the announcement of Alito. They're trying to make sure that the really important stories from last week don't get lost. They need to make sure that the public and the media don't lose interest in the corruption stories.
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 10:02 am
Laughing

I'm not gonna get into a headline-writing contest with you, Tico. (I suspect I'd win, as I used to do that for a living.) Let's just agree to disagree, OK? I don't think the Dems come up smelling like anything but a rose on this one, except, of course, in the eyes of dyed-in-the-wool GOP stalwarts. They accomplished what they wanted -- they got the public's attention (inlcuding yours, including mine). Sure it was a political move; so is everything that's ever done in the Senate or House chambers.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 10:11 am
As a taxpayer who supports neither party, I am continually insulted by the actions of the Democrats in this effort to once again, try to point fingers of blame when the finger must be pointed directly at themselves.

This Amercian is not naive enough to fall for the political stunt when we already had several "commissions" paid for by taxpayers.

If it makes the Dem supporters feel better about themselves when they can point a finger (like Katrina) you will look even more foolish to this independent.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 10:17 am
The Republicans are reaping what they have sown, and given the quanitity of nasties that have been sown, they will continue reaping for quite some time now. I have no problem with the Democrats making a stink about the investigation in order to ensure that it is completed and the public is paying attention. Too much gets swept under the rug when we're not paying attention.

And I am also an independent. To each his own.
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twinpeaksnikki2
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 10:27 am
I already e-mailed Sen. Reid a thank you note for this. It is about time we stood up to these liars.

Roberts: "I was working on it" Bullshit! Anyone who believes that, I got a beautiful bridge for sale with a view. All the Republicans have done is stonewall and cover-up.

The bloodiest (or near it) month yet in Iraq and we still don't know why or how we got hoodwinked into this disaster. The end result of this incursion will be MUCH worse than Vietnam.
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twinpeaksnikki2
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 10:29 am
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 11:15 am
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But according to Roberts, this work was nearly complete, would probably be finished next week, and Senate Democrats knew it.


Tico, sheesh! This is such bullsh*t and you know it.

Phase 2 wasn't getting done. The Republicans never intended to finish it. They have no reason to finish it, as it will be their own leadership that they are investigating; there is no political bonus for them to complete the job.

Remember that this has been in a 'working process' since Feburary; Feb. 2004, that is, and nothing of substance can be shown from this entire period.

Reid called the Republicans out, and they capitulated immediately, for they knew that they had no defense; Phase 2 hadn't been done at all. If the Republicans in Congress had any legs to stand on, they would have fought the creation of an oversight panel, for sure...

Robertson telling Blitzer that it was 'going to be done next week' is a flat-out lie. Not that this is surprising, is it?

Cycloptichorn
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