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Atheists... Your life is pointless

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Bartikus
 
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Wed 14 Dec, 2005 02:27 pm
Doktor S wrote:
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1.) A unique perspective will never be around again to learn from. No?
It's rare...

You can only 'learn' from subjective 'perspectives', the only thing you can learn from an individual that you can't learn from other sources is information about that individual, which I personally don't see a lot of objective worth in.

A person may know a wide array of information and hold a different set of perspectives and opinions on all the separate bits of said information, but no one bit of information or reaction to that bit of information is really unique or special. The things that make up what and who we are didn't spawn in a void, they were already there.

I understand your argument I just don't see any value in it.


Well I believe that any person trying to assert the value of another's life, intelligence,etc......is kinda like playing God to satisfy their own ego. No matter who does it....they assume an authority over another that they just don't have.

If people thought better of themselves...they might treat others better as well.

At least from my perspective....what do you think?

Just because someone says they are a Theist, Christian whatever...doesn't mean they are.

Same as an Atheist.
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Bartikus
 
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Wed 14 Dec, 2005 02:36 pm
The things that make up what and who we are didn't spawn in a void, they were already there.

elaborate on this please.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 14 Dec, 2005 02:36 pm
Playing god? Give me a break!
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Intrepid
 
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Wed 14 Dec, 2005 02:39 pm
Is that an amorphous comment, CI?
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Setanta
 
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Wed 14 Dec, 2005 02:42 pm
Wrong thread, Intrepid . . . that's a nasty trick, importing like that . . .
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cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 14 Dec, 2005 02:42 pm
intrepid, Interpret that any way you please...as I know you already have.
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Intrepid
 
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Wed 14 Dec, 2005 02:45 pm
Are you providing an example of exporting, Setanta?
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Intrepid
 
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Wed 14 Dec, 2005 02:46 pm
I am sorry, CI. I should have given you the definition of the word.
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Doktor S
 
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Wed 14 Dec, 2005 02:47 pm
Bartikus wrote:
The things that make up what and who we are didn't spawn in a void, they were already there.

elaborate on this please.

Imagine a microcosm universe containing only 4 people, with very limited interests, for the sake of demonstrating my point.

Bob likes ice cream, hockey, and cherios.
Suzie likes yogart, hockey and count chocula.
Ann likes ice cream, boxing and honey combs.
Joe likes pudding, football and cherios.

Bob dies.
Bob was 'unique' as he was the only one of the three with that specific set of likes.
However, any of the perspectives that made up 'bob' could be learned from the other 3, separately. Nothing has really been lost.

'there is nothing original under the sun'
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Bartikus
 
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Wed 14 Dec, 2005 03:04 pm
Doktor S wrote:

'there is nothing original under the sun'


Nothing is new/original under the sun? The universe has always existed you mean?

Why did you choose 4 people? Do you see them as four seperate authorities unto themselves?
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Doktor S
 
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Wed 14 Dec, 2005 03:07 pm
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Why did you choose 4 people? Do you see them as four seperate authorities unto themselves?


I chose 4 for simplicity. For the example we will assume all 4 are authorities on each of the 4 subjects listed for each.
I am unsure if you grasp the point I am trying to illustrate
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cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 14 Dec, 2005 03:10 pm
Let's use bigger examples like Katrina and the tsunami in Asia.

They're all gone, but it doesn't change most of humanity or the future of those that are born after those events.

How they acknowledge their environment and live their lives doesn't matter to the greater population or the rest of the world.

All we know for sure is that if this planet survives another day, the sun will be seen by those that are still alive.
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Intrepid
 
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Wed 14 Dec, 2005 03:11 pm
Shocked
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cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 14 Dec, 2005 03:11 pm
Unique doesn't have any value unless you are somebody well known.
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Bartikus
 
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Wed 14 Dec, 2005 03:19 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Unique doesn't have any value unless you are somebody well known.


wow....I do understand your perspectives thanks.

That's a trip.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 14 Dec, 2005 03:23 pm
I should have said, "Unique doesn't have any value to the rest of the world unless you are somebody well known." Most individuals have value to their family and friends.
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Bartikus
 
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Wed 14 Dec, 2005 03:28 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Most individuals have value to their family and friends.


This is true of anyone...but, what defines a friend to you. Can they insist a difference of opinion on a delicate or touchy matter and remain a friend?
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Arella Mae
 
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Wed 14 Dec, 2005 03:36 pm
Mr. Cicerone Imposter Wrote:

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I should have said, "Unique doesn't have any value to the rest of the world unless you are somebody well known." Most individuals have value to their family and friends.


Mr. C.I., what a nice thing to say! Wow! You and Mr. Setanta have mentioned many times how well known I am on these threads! :wink: You think I have value! I am so honored! This was so nice of you to share with me! Everyone! Did you see that, Mr. C.I. thinks I have value! Woo hoo!http://web4.ehost-services.com/el2ton1/cheekkiss.gif

I hope you are having a great day, Mr. C.I.!http://web4.ehost-services.com/el2ton1/heart.gif
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Bartikus
 
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Wed 14 Dec, 2005 03:41 pm
Stop Momma...your making me jealous with all the kissy face stuff.

Women have the power.....Go on...take a bite.
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farmerman
 
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Wed 14 Dec, 2005 03:42 pm
Momma, you feelin ok? Even though we disagree nightily, I get concerned when someone changes personalities in mid tirade.
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