Atheists... Your life is pointless

@MattDavis,

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@igm,

Very well igm you can hold your views and attempt to "do little harm".
I appreciate your suggestion regarding my "advice" and take it under advisement. You've complained before that I had "written you off".
This is of course not true. I do however take your self-professed experiments to have some value.
I will not hesitate to intervene when your experimentation becomes derogatory.
I think I have before stated that any genuine guru will simply claim:

Honest Guru wrote:

"Here is where I am. If you would like to be here, I will attempt to explain the path I took."

I don't want to be where you are igm.
I am no guru either.

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@MattDavis,

MattDavis wrote:

You've complained before that I had "written you off".

Why would I complain about such a thing? Write me off and the effect will be... undetectable. Preach at someone else... please. I do realize that I'm the only one who doesn't see your perfection... but I truly have nothing to lose... I prefer to be blind to it unless it's unmistakable... that's not happened yet by a long way.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Most women are involved politically and socially at ever increasing rates; what are you talking about?

Well, clearly you think they are involved enough and that things are improving fast enough and they should all be patient. I'm less patient. Most of the male managers I've worked for have been complete uncommunicative abusive dicks.

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@Kolyo,

I work with primarily women as a nurse.
Management styles do tend to differ depending on gender.
The nursing culture is probably a little different than corporate culture.
That being said I also know some poor communicating female managers as well.
I do not label them as "dicks" or "bitches" however, or at least struggle very hard not to do so mentally.

Here is a talk that I think every manager should be aware of Very Happy

Probably good for economists as well. Very Happy

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@Kolyo,

I never said "they are involved enough!" That's your wording. I look at the progress from the few who are active, but from my observations, it's going to take many more women or a very long time before they see any equality.

I worked at Florsheim Shoe Company as their Audit Manager. I was the first manager at Florsheim who hired a woman auditor, but that was in the late 1960's.

Show me different?

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Most women are involved politically and socially at ever increasing rates...

cicerone imposter wrote:

I look at the progress from the few who are active...

So is it "most" or "few"? Your wording changes post to post. Inconsistency and lack of accountability. Typical dick manager.

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@igm,

igm wrote:

I prefer to be blind to it unless it's unmistakable...

That is nothing new under the sun.

Edmund Burke wrote:

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing”

I of course would substitute "men" with "people". But I think you get his drift.

Perhaps you should do a little research on the civil rights movement.

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@igm,

igm wrote:

.. people appreciate those that do that and those that don't eventually undermine there own attempted good works.

A very good way to avoid criticism, is to do nothing.
Is that your suggestion igm?
I welcome criticism. If you have a view step up.

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@MattDavis,

Against someone who can 'trim' my posts up like you do... I'll pass. Please... please don't give me any more 'unasked for advice'... please.

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@igm,

Please don't use derogatory language.
That is the least you can do.

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@MattDavis,

MattDavis wrote:

Please don't use derogatory language.
That is the least you can do.

I've already explained it was a minor faux pas and not derogatory. It's only you who has gone on a righteous crusade about something I said to someone else. That person wasn't offended because that person isn't someone to whom that faux pas could be affixed correctly to and there is very probably no one else here who also would be affected by it.

You seem to be meddling and offering sanctimonious advice to me constantly not to mention others... try to stop doing it to me.

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@igm,

If you called someone "dick" "bitch" "fag" "cult member" or any other derogatory label I would react the same way.
And have reacted the same way to others (nothing special about your particular brand of derogation).
I will not stop doing so. Demonstrate some courage and act on your convictions.

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@MattDavis,

To igm and Matt. Maybe I understand you two incorrectly but I will share my observation with you even though I may be the least among those who study human behavior.

Neither one of you have shown me a sign that you mean to be hateful intentionally but the truth is that we have so many barriers or should I say differences such as culture, attitudes, emotions, values, ethics, genetics and so forth that make it difficult for us to communicate with others without sounding arrogant or negative at times.

When there is a conflict of ideas if you really care to let the other side know that you do not mean to be mean then I would suggest that you both try just a little harder. We are blinded by our emotions at times but is that our fault? I do not think so because who has the ability to make themselves happy, sad mad and so forth it seems to be natural to me so maybe we should reconsider what is taking place at times?

I have not finished watching this but it is about ethics and I wonder what Rachel has to say about the subject.

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@igm,

Igm I have in the past participated in your private message game to allow you to "save face".
When you begin to interfere with sound nursing advice to persons in need of it, you have then crossed the line.
If "shame" is not an emotion you are capable of feeling absent social pressures, then I have no qualms about laying out the order of events.

igm PM wrote:

You must be right... why? Because Matt knows... how does he know? Don't worry about that... remember he's eloquent... Matt knows...

Matt notices trend in thumbed down posts after any interaction with igm.
Asks igm to stop (publicly).
Informs igm that his/her PM messages will no longer be held "private" if (s)he continues to use them abusively (publicly).
Today notices thumbing down of posts on sound nursing advice asked by new members of A2K.

Matt PM wrote:

I would appreciate if you quit following me on A2K.

To be followed in quick succession the following messages:

igm PM wrote:

I've not thumbed you so you need to consider why you accused me of it? You do offer very good nursing advice but you do have issues.. I will 'not' stop reading your good advice to others... sorry to disappoint you. How can I see the arguments of others if I'm prohibited from seeing your posts.. it's not all about you Matt.

igm PM wrote:

I can prove it... someone has voted you down but I'm only allowed one vote so if I now vote you down you will be on -1 something I could not do... now... if I've already voted you down.. and of course -1 would be impossible for me to achieve by myself. Check in a minute and see your -1 scores and see I'm correct.

igm PM wrote:

So, if you now check you will be on -1 because someone else has been voting you down... why..? Because you offer advice too often when it's not ask for... is my guess.

I'm not playing your private message game anymore.
You do a disservice to others if you thumb down sound nursing advice.
Please unsubscribe from following my posts igm.

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@MattDavis,

FBM is not a Buddhist according to him so the term 'Hinayana' is not derogatory. He was telling me a fact... that some Buddhists find in so... I said not all do.. but now I know that some do I will apologize. Even though there are no A2k people here who would be offended by the term.

You jumped in and have derided me ever since that post to FBM.

You accused me of falsely in your thread (a thread that I've never participated in) of 'thumbing you' (out of the blue) yet you are on -1 for some posts something I could not do by myself. I did not thumb you but someone or more than one as we are only allowed one vote did so. So what is that about? Why you are bothered beats me.

If you are talking about Ken Wilbur then not I but others have said that he was a failed cult leader. That he sided with those accused of sex crimes and he said that he and those that follow him are evolutionary superior so their actions could not be understood by those not on the evolutionary 'cutting edge'.

He said he had the answer to why organizations fail but his organization failed for the very reasons he'd pointed out thus showing his 'answers' were a failure. He encouraged the rich, intelligent and proud to believe they were special but he failed them and himself... so it is reported. Don't shoot the messenger.

I'm here to debate not to defend. I put questions forward to see the response; we are not all doing these posts for the same reason. I think people who use their real names are not here for the same reason.

By the way you give great nursing advice.

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@MattDavis,

If anyone else is following this childishness.
Here is the post which I think contains sound nursing advice:
http://able2know.org/topic/210979-1#post-5284782
In the case, that some anonymous stranger wishes to weigh in with their thumbs.

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@MattDavis,

Why would I vote down nursing advice? On this thread I attempted to show you that someone else 'not' me is doing this to you everywhere by showing your '0's were not me because I then subsequently voted you down on this thread only to show you that i.e. you then could see you were on -1 and therefore the zero scores were 'not' me. Why do you care so much about that???

You've only 'lost it' with me... but you've lost it.

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@igm,

igm wrote:

You've only 'lost it' with me... but you've lost it.

What have I lost igm?
Not my integrity.
Please unsubscribe from following me.

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Matt Davis wrote:

In the case, that some anonymous stranger wishes to weigh in with their thumbs.

I honesty think that the voting system is the most annoying and the most pointless notion that is associated within this website...

I wish it did not even exist...but if it did, everyone's posts were always at 1, and could only go up...So there is always an incentive to be encouraging to one another...and not animosity...but if it was to go down...that no one could remain anonymous about our votes...So there would always be a risk reward if someone just wants to follow another person around...With the one exception that only a moderator could reserve the right to make a post say zero...because then the person would get the point if they just did nothing but post hate...Or did not quote correctly, Or plagiarized or something...etc...

Right now, it just about seems that it is all about meaningless pride...that is very easy to manipulate...and destroys its effects...

I know I have brought this up many times before...but it is because I emphatically wish it was gone...

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