Atheists... Your life is pointless

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This Spademaster poster doesn’t fool me one bit! I know better and he knows what I’m talking about, in case he doesn’t remember he can ask me and I'll jar his memory.

I value what you and others have to say so would you be kind and jar my memory "being it is so poor" about how you think Spade's behavior may be antisocial more than others?

I obviously can't speak for any of Spade's past behavior, but at least in the time that I have interactions he seems to try very hard to understand the views of others and attempts to find common ground.
We all have backgrounds to overcome or past experiences to build from.
I would hate to punish someone's attempts at understanding with condemnations of past transgressions.

As I stated in my post “He” can ask me. I’m not getting into a bitch fight with other posters when it doesn’t concern them.

I have concerns for both of you and I do not see a need for bitch slapping. Maybe Spades said something he would like to take back but I have studied spades behavior for some time and he has always tried to be a gentleman even though he may have failed subjectively at times.

As I stated in my post “He” can ask me. I’m not getting into a bitch fight with other posters when it doesn’t concern them.

Welcome to the understanding of Spades, he is very complex but a promoter of hate is one thing he strives do distance himself from.

Under the Spades account.

RL, if you want something to occupy your curiosity...
I started a thread to talk about the TV show The Following.
I don't know if you've watched it, it has a lot to do with sociopathy.

Also, Spades is an adult. Neither you nor I need to get in the middle.

Can you kindly send me the link mate? I would like to check your thread out...

Thanks for the empathetic words mate...

If you were to look far enough back through history it can be proved that religion and the vast variety of religions are all man made. Religions have been created by the top 1% of society to control the other 99 so does that mean my life does not have meaning because I do not listen and follow the ancient beliefs created by someone to control? For our lives to be dictated in this way and live how ‘someone’ else wants us to surely do we not need some hard evidence? Not the stories of miracles that have not occurred in hundreds of thousands of years. I do not mean to insult anyone who is religious and I agree in many ways religion is very helpful in life and especially in times of need but is it really fair to say that someone’s life has no meaning or purpose if they are not religious or believe in god? I personally think not. Someone’s life does have to be defined through the acts of religion and life has countless other purposes other than following the word of god. I know many people who live very happy and fulfilling lives with much purpose without following the rules of a religion. Love, careers, family are a few of the many reasons life has purpose. And we can be kind to others and treat others, regardless of their religion or no religion, with the same respect we want. I hope I got my point across that life can still have purpose. Even for an atheist

Life definitely has a purpose for everyone that no theist can deny, and are absolutely wrong for claiming there is no point too...My questions are, what are these real purposes? And why would you be willing to concede that a religion or God is not correct, or that a God does not exist or is evil or man-made in finding yourself and coming to the realizations that their is a point to existence itself? And a real reason why people should act moral all of the time with or without the moral teachings that any religion or faith or philosophy has to offer?

In other words, what is there to gain or what is the prize for rejecting God in order to find these self revelations as to how important existence is? And how much good one can do with their lives, with or without a faith or God himself?

If someone comes to the self realizations as to understanding how important existence is, and what we can do with life in general...even if we came from nothing like evolution solely says...why would you think it is in your best interest to claim that a God(s) have nothing to do with it? Or are the sole reason why existence is worthwhile itself? While a God itself is not worth perusing? Or has no impact on you finding these self revelations? How do you think it physically limits you or impacts you in a harmful way to say that you think there is a point to existence itself and God is the reason why? In what ways do you think you are sure that people have an interest in controlling your thinking? And are not interested in showing you that there is a purpose to existence, but it extends past this physical lifetime? Since you are an atheist, and not theist....how are they trying to control you, when the way to find God is always a self acceptance, as in no way anyone else could make you believe anything you do not want too?

Another thing...Creasy has not been here for years...you won't get a response from him if you are looking for one...but I am sure others will engage you here...

I do not mean to try to attack or hurt you either, because I think you were being very respectful to theists like you said you wanted too...And I think that Creasy was the one who was crossing that line...

I am just very curious about the atheistic positioning...

My thing is, it can only really be 1 of 2 ways...No real significant purpose to existence at all...Or some form of purpose on some personal level, or beyond...as in purpose to life, or believing there is a purpose to a God and afterlife...And the way I personally see it every time I try to break it down is that once one sees that existence is important it is along the same exact lines of thinking that a God is the reason why...And I personally do not understand how someone thinking that they believe a God is not the reason for this importance of existence = the same exact thing as saying I believe a God is the reason that existence is important...

So I can not really understand where one makes that differential understanding that it is not a God, apposed to a God...and since I can't find a differential, I do not see why it is logical to say it is not because of a God or one is unsure...because these (false faiths) all teach these significant rational understandings of why existence is prominent, as well as beyond...And no atheistic, agnostic view has any beliefs that claim they believe there is a point to existence because it takes beliefs to view life this way and not challenges of skepticism, or rejections...but yet most rational atheists would say they see a reason to existence...how can one come to a root understanding of this by rejections, or skepticism? And not some type of actual belief? So why be skeptical of a God?

Life is its own justification. One doesn't need a big, magic sky daddy to give a point to one's life.

Like so many atheists love to claim...PROVE IT...

Why is there any reason for anyone to have a belief there is a point to existence? Since these false faiths teach this concept in some organized way long before any type of organized atheism has. By evidence that science is based off of philosophy itself...While atheists are skeptical of a God...and claim to have no beliefs about God(s)...Or beliefs are not a valid notion itself? And one should test things with scientific scrutiny...

What is a valid way to test the validity of the scrutiny of the importance of existence itself to the participants of existence if one does not believe it is important?

It isn't necessary to prove anything, not that i think you have the mental equipment to understand this. People are--people are born, people live and people die. These are facts, and there is no need to justify them. It has nothing to do with belief.

Since it appears that you need this explained to you once again, atheism is not a belief system. It's a refusal to believe someone else's proposition.

OK...now how could I not repeat everything and insert that this is all true so there is no point to existence? Yes, if you claim that life is justified as having merit and needs no God then you have a burden of showing why you think it is justified without a God just like one would have a burden of showing why a God would give life merit...you position does not simply negate this...lets stick to the discussion no need to get personal...

Is this because you can prove this or because you believe this?

I didn't say that life is justified as having merit. Life is, and that you cannot accept that without twisting it up with your sky daddy delusion is not evidence that it is pointless. I have no such burden of proof because all that god bullshit of yours is something you added to my statement.

Life is, you can accept that or you can spend your life beating your head against a stone wall. Which you choose is a matter of indifference to me. That's not a personal remark, it's an observation on your god mania.

You really can't distinguish between belief and the lack of belief. Atheism means without god. It's not a matter of what i or anyone else believes, it's about what i or anyone else does not believe. There's no burden of proof for that. If i say "I don't believe that," there is no burden on me to prove that i don't believe that.