Momma Angel Wrote:
Quote:John Creasy,
I have to admit, I enjoyed reading every one of these posts!
But, I do need to point something out to you and it is the right thing to do. I do not feel you can lump Phoenix into your personal feelings/thoughts, etc., about atheists, non-believers, etc. Phoenix, in my opinion, is one of a kind. You will find her extremely fair in all matters and with all viewpoints. She and I disagree on a lot of things, but she is by far, the fairest I have come across.
And, by the way, I have tried myself pointing out that 'they' think it's ok to call our beliefs, etc. stupid but it's not okay for 'us' to do it to them. Also, as I have pointed out many times, it is not right for any of us to demean or belittle anyone else for what they believe. We don't have to agree, but we surely do not need to reduce ourselves to belittling anyone for anything.
That was my very first post on this thread. NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO DEMEAN OR BELITTLE ANYONE FOR ANYTHING. I have probably typed that statement more than any other in all these threads.
Yes, there are times when I have gotten angry, frustrated, upset, etc., and said things I should not have said. When I realize my wrong I do my best to apologize for it and try not to do it again.
I guess that is the big difference between you and I Set, you don't seem to care (actually, you said you don't) how your words effect other people. Well, I do care.
I have tried and tried to at least come to a truce with you. Yes, and then it started up again. So, again, I am attempting a truce here.
Perhaps just as some think all Christians are alike there are some that think all atheists are alike? I know that statement is not true. There are those on these threads that are atheist, agnostic, apatheists, etc. that I have been in lengthy conversations with and have had no harsh words from either side, no matter how far apart in beliefs we are.
Christian does not mean being perfect. It means striving for perfection but realizing it can never be attained here on earth.
So, let's be really honest here. In general, those on your side of the fence will jump to the defense of those on your side and those on my side of the fence will jump to the defense of the God squad, as we seem to have been dubbed. And then there are those that will come to the defense of anyone who is being perceived as attacked.
And I believe that Intrepid meant he was not going to be posting to C.I., again. I don't believe he meant not post at all in this thread.
Facts are facts. When we are provoked long enough and caught in a war of words and lash back, we are then reminded that it is against our Christian beliefs. Yes, it is against our beliefs. And we, ourselves, must take responsibility for this.
The only thing I ask is ALL of us accept our responsibility in the decline of the conversations/debates/etc., and do what we can to try to get it back on track.
I have no reason to continue in a mud slinging contest with anyone. I have apologized for it and I will do my best to not do it again.