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Atheists... Your life is pointless

 
 
Eorl
 
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Mon 21 Nov, 2005 10:28 pm
John Creasy wrote:
edgarblythe wrote:
I am proudly an atheist, and I don't give a **** about proving the negative. I hold that there is not the slightest reason to conjure a god to worship, or to ascribe some sort of divine guidance to the universe. Revering a Super Parent of a God in particular is to me just laughable. Believing in a disinterested, faceless god is not much different. It is based in the same fear and ignorance, after acknowledging that the Old God-with-a-beard is too embarrassing to consider. One can't blame science for atheism. There would be no gods even if there were no scientists.


And I think that the notion of this world being a cosmic mistake is laughable. The notion that every believer is somehow ignorant is even more preposterous.



"And I think that the notion of this world revolving around the sun is laughable. The notion that every believer is somehow ignorant is even more preposterous"

Quote: practically everyone not so long ago.
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JLNobody
 
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Mon 21 Nov, 2005 11:20 pm
Osso an atheist? Oh my God!
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ossobuco
 
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Mon 21 Nov, 2005 11:25 pm
Ay, caramba, it's true.
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JLNobody
 
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Mon 21 Nov, 2005 11:31 pm
Good night; this is too much to handle.
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ossobuco
 
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Mon 21 Nov, 2005 11:32 pm
G'night...
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cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 21 Nov, 2005 11:44 pm
Intrepid saidQuote:
I think that it is an utter waste of time and energy to even contemplate your existence. You won't have to worry yourself about getting posts from me in the future.
________________


farmerman:
You blinked. We win. YAAAAAAY
Ok, lets get some pizza and let the God squad do whatever it is they do when noones watching

I'll even provide all the other 'refreshments.' LOL
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Arella Mae
 
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Mon 21 Nov, 2005 11:49 pm
I will not be attending your little victory party, C.I., so don't bother getting any refreshments for me.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 21 Nov, 2005 11:50 pm
MA, Do you invite yourself to parties?
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Arella Mae
 
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Mon 21 Nov, 2005 11:52 pm
I misread Farmerman's post is all. I apologize.
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Eorl
 
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Tue 22 Nov, 2005 02:17 am
John Creasy wrote:
edgarblythe wrote:
I am proudly an atheist, and I don't give a **** about proving the negative. I hold that there is not the slightest reason to conjure a god to worship, or to ascribe some sort of divine guidance to the universe. Revering a Super Parent of a God in particular is to me just laughable. Believing in a disinterested, faceless god is not much different. It is based in the same fear and ignorance, after acknowledging that the Old God-with-a-beard is too embarrassing to consider. One can't blame science for atheism. There would be no gods even if there were no scientists.


And I think that the notion of this world being a cosmic mistake is laughable. The notion that every believer is somehow ignorant is even more preposterous.


I see a universe and conclude that a universe exists.
You see a universe and conclude that a god exists.
...which conclussion is laughable?

Belief is ignorance....or it would be called knowledge.
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Setanta
 
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Tue 22 Nov, 2005 05:29 am
If there truly were any loathing being displayed here, it would refer to the holy rollers who showed up to bash atheists, in a thread which was started for the purpose of bashing atheists. It is both disgusting and hilarious to see MOAN and Intrepid with their protestations of christian virtue showing up to defend Creasy's hatefulness toward those with whom he disagrees on the issue of the imaginary friend superstition. It is rather like stepping in front of a moving car, and then screaming about a hit and run. What lunacy you all practice.
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edgarblythe
 
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Tue 22 Nov, 2005 05:54 am
I usually do my little dance after I score a touchdown. Come to think of it, this is it. Woo hah!
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Intrepid
 
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Tue 22 Nov, 2005 08:04 am
Setanta wrote:
If there truly were any loathing being displayed here, it would refer to the holy rollers who showed up to bash atheists, in a thread which was started for the purpose of bashing atheists. It is both disgusting and hilarious to see MOAN and Intrepid with their protestations of christian virtue showing up to defend Creasy's hatefulness toward those with whom he disagrees on the issue of the imaginary friend superstition. It is rather like stepping in front of a moving car, and then screaming about a hit and run. What lunacy you all practice.


Setanta, once again, puts his mouth (keyboard) in gear before his brain is engaged. I am not a Holy Roller. Do you even know what that is? The disgust and hilariousness is of your own making. Show me where I have defended the originator of this post Mr. Dog. On the contrary, I have defended the other side. Except for replies to the ridiculous accusations by you and your ilk. (Ilk - you and CI seem to like that word). Bring in the clowns.
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Setanta
 
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Tue 22 Nov, 2005 08:34 am
I haven't used the word ilk. You should engage your brain before you approach the keyboard. In fact, far from using the word ilk, i have lampooned the use of the word.

This then, is a sample of how you've defended the other side?

Intrepid wrote:
I think that it is an utter waste of time and energy to even contemplate your existence. You won't have to worry yourself about getting posts from me in the future.


Too bad you couldn't keep your promise about not posting here in future. In response to Osso's remark about CI and his post on brain function, you wrote:

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Don't worry, we are trying to get him some help.


Is that another example of you "defending the other side?" How about this, is this another example of that?

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Certainly does help to explain why quantity of posts seem to overtake quality of absorption and answers.


I only see evidence of this claim of yours once, and once again, you said you were leaving, but didn't:

On October 25th, Intrepid wrote:
The title of this thread is, indeed offensive. Even to this Christian who does not condemn those who think differently. We can disagree and sometimes we can even disagree strongly.

For me, I was at first reluctant to post anything in this thread because of the title. I realize that civil discourse is difficult when the title is so negative to begin with. This is my last post in this thread.


You lasted all of one day, you posted again on October 26th. Two days later, on October 28th, you posted this:

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There are those who would want that it be unlawful for people to have Christian beliefs.

The life of an atheist is not pointless. They have their belief system the same as anybody else. We all must accept the consequences of our beliefs.


Apart from being apparently unconstitutionally able to recognize that atheism is not a belief, but the rejection of belief--you start that post with an unsubstantiated statement from authority, which inferentially brings atheists into disrepute. Is that another example of defending "the other side?"

I only went half of the way through a thread now running to almost 60 pages. Some of your posts are reasonable, some are condescendingly tolerant of those whom you apparently would brand atheists. However, your contention that you only came here to "defend the other side" is completely without merit, and you've gotten damned nasty with people, espeically with CI, on more than one occassion in this thread.

I recommend to you that you revisit the scriptural injunction about motes and beams in one's eye . . .
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JLNobody
 
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Tue 22 Nov, 2005 11:54 am
Edgar states: "One can't blame science for atheism. There would be no gods even if there were no scientists."
So true, and I would add that one can't blame atheists for atheism. There would be no gods even if there were no atheists.
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Arella Mae
 
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Tue 22 Nov, 2005 12:06 pm
Momma Angel Wrote:

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John Creasy,

I have to admit, I enjoyed reading every one of these posts!

But, I do need to point something out to you and it is the right thing to do. I do not feel you can lump Phoenix into your personal feelings/thoughts, etc., about atheists, non-believers, etc. Phoenix, in my opinion, is one of a kind. You will find her extremely fair in all matters and with all viewpoints. She and I disagree on a lot of things, but she is by far, the fairest I have come across.

And, by the way, I have tried myself pointing out that 'they' think it's ok to call our beliefs, etc. stupid but it's not okay for 'us' to do it to them. Also, as I have pointed out many times, it is not right for any of us to demean or belittle anyone else for what they believe. We don't have to agree, but we surely do not need to reduce ourselves to belittling anyone for anything.


That was my very first post on this thread. NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO DEMEAN OR BELITTLE ANYONE FOR ANYTHING. I have probably typed that statement more than any other in all these threads.

Yes, there are times when I have gotten angry, frustrated, upset, etc., and said things I should not have said. When I realize my wrong I do my best to apologize for it and try not to do it again.

I guess that is the big difference between you and I Set, you don't seem to care (actually, you said you don't) how your words effect other people. Well, I do care.

I have tried and tried to at least come to a truce with you. Yes, and then it started up again. So, again, I am attempting a truce here.

Perhaps just as some think all Christians are alike there are some that think all atheists are alike? I know that statement is not true. There are those on these threads that are atheist, agnostic, apatheists, etc. that I have been in lengthy conversations with and have had no harsh words from either side, no matter how far apart in beliefs we are.

Christian does not mean being perfect. It means striving for perfection but realizing it can never be attained here on earth.

So, let's be really honest here. In general, those on your side of the fence will jump to the defense of those on your side and those on my side of the fence will jump to the defense of the God squad, as we seem to have been dubbed. And then there are those that will come to the defense of anyone who is being perceived as attacked.

And I believe that Intrepid meant he was not going to be posting to C.I., again. I don't believe he meant not post at all in this thread.

Facts are facts. When we are provoked long enough and caught in a war of words and lash back, we are then reminded that it is against our Christian beliefs. Yes, it is against our beliefs. And we, ourselves, must take responsibility for this.

The only thing I ask is ALL of us accept our responsibility in the decline of the conversations/debates/etc., and do what we can to try to get it back on track.

I have no reason to continue in a mud slinging contest with anyone. I have apologized for it and I will do my best to not do it again.
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raheel
 
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Tue 22 Nov, 2005 12:08 pm
what i ean by athiests life being pointless is that it should seem that way to them considering what they believe.

i personally believe every life has the same purpose.

athiests life is pointless because it has no purpose.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Tue 22 Nov, 2005 12:09 pm
MA
Picture this: Setanta is shaking with sobbing as he repents for his not caring a fig what Momma Angel thinks or posts.

Oh, the grief of it!

BBB Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
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cicerone imposter
 
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Tue 22 Nov, 2005 12:21 pm
BBB, Your imagination is only exceeded by your imagination. LOL
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Arella Mae
 
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Tue 22 Nov, 2005 12:41 pm
raheel,

Didn't you just go right back to telling an atheist their life is pointless? You have no right to do that. None of us have that right.

Their life is not pointless. There is a reason for everything.


BBB,

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