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Atheists... Your life is pointless

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Wed 2 Jan, 2013 05:13 am
@Zardoz,
Less of the blather, you got something wrong. Instead of pontificating you should make sure you check your facts next time.
reasoning logic
 
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Wed 2 Jan, 2013 06:34 am
@izzythepush,
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Less of the blather, you got something wrong. Instead of pontificating you should make sure you check your facts next time.


I see Izzy is on a roll starting his new year out
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Wed 2 Jan, 2013 08:38 am
@reasoning logic,
He is absolutely right though mate...There is no reason why Zardoz does not come out and say he just made a mistake...
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Zardoz
 
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Wed 2 Jan, 2013 08:23 pm
@izzythepush,
Izzythepush even though what was posted seems correct at least in part I am not sure it is exactly right. Bibles seem to change over time and there may be more than one version of the quote. Here we have a different brand of Christianity on every street corner and no doubt many have their own bible. For instance I know for a fact it was edited out of the Catholic of over 50 years ago in fact it was most probably removed in the 13th century when many changes were made. Would the Pope edit out something about revenge? Not likely as god is cast as a vengeful god what a few more children with bashed in heads when 6 million Jews were killed for crucifying Christ.

I don’t know about you but bashing in the heads of innocent children for any reason seems a little extreme. Most Americans were absolutely horrified by the slaughter of 20 five and six years olds at New Town but see absolutely nothing wrong with a bible role model doing exactly the same thing.

What was Adam Lanza thinking? Maybe he chose to emulate his hero Mosses and slaughter children. Certainly society holds Mosses up as a hero for young people to emulate. You cannot hold someone up as a role model and expect young people to focus on the good and ignore the bad.
Zardoz
 
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Wed 2 Jan, 2013 08:53 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
SpadeMaster what I am saying is I haven’t found the bible yet. I would ask my wife but she has been sick with whatever is going around and frankly I don’t know the last time I saw it. I know there is at least one copy in the house somewhere. I know of at least two versions of the bible and I am not really sure how many other versions are out there. My aunt has the family bible that is over a 100 year old. The bible itself is repetitive and there may be different versions or similar quotes in different places. From memory Psalms seems correct but the quote doesn’t complete coincide with my memory.

When I find it if it matches the quote that was posted I will concede that the quote is correct. However I will never concede that the killing of children is a moral example by superior being. Third party revenge is wrong if you have issue with the Babylon leave the innocent children out of it.

Think of what would happen today if a religious cult was forbidden to cross someone property and they killed the owners of property and slaughtered their children in order to cross. The nation would abhor their brutality and demand the death penalty. They would not fall to their knees and worship the murders because they belong to religious cult. The only difference between Mosses and the Mansion family is the Mansion family didn’t kill small children.
BillRM
 
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Wed 2 Jan, 2013 08:58 pm
@Zardoz,
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The only difference between Mosses and the Mansion family is the Mansion family didn’t kill small children.


They cut a late term baby out of the mother womb..............
Arella Mae
 
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Wed 2 Jan, 2013 09:07 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
The only difference between Mosses and the Mansion family is the Mansion family didn’t kill small children.


They cut a late term baby out of the mother womb..............


No, they didn't. Sharon Tate's baby was never cut from her womb.
BillRM
 
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Thu 3 Jan, 2013 08:38 am
@Arella Mae,
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No, they didn't. Sharon Tate's baby was never cut from her womb.


So she was just killed while begging for her and her child life?

So to sum up they where no worst then Moses the so call prophet of god?
izzythepush
 
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Thu 3 Jan, 2013 10:25 am
@BillRM,
You really are ridiculous. Moses and Monson are nothing like each other. Manson was a mentally ill criminal, with a handful of followers, they're all banged up.

Moses, or so the stories go, was a leader who lead his people out of slavery, through the wilderness, into the promised land, and set up a legal framework. In short he was a leader and a nation/empire builder.

Leaving aside the historical (in)accuracy of the Bible for a moment, you should compare like with like. What about Genghis Kan, or Atilla the Hun or William the Conqueror? They all did some pretty despicable things in the process of nation/empire building.

The only reason you don't is because you're desperate to portray religion/belief as the root cause of all evil, so you cherry-pick facts that suit you and ignore everything else. This is just your way of trying to make yourself appear more virtuous than others who don't believe as you. In that respect you're no different, nor any less delusional, than any preachy evangelical.

What is different, is that at least Moses felt he was obeying a higher calling. You've got nobody to blame for all the sick **** you get up to, just your own sefishness and perverted desires. I bet you think about Manson a lot, as you seem to empathise a great deal with violent criminals and sex offenders.
Arella Mae
 
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Thu 3 Jan, 2013 12:12 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
No, they didn't. Sharon Tate's baby was never cut from her womb.


So she was just killed while begging for her and her child life?

So to sum up they where no worst then Moses the so call prophet of god?


Anything to start an argument I guess. No thanx.
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Val Killmore
 
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Thu 3 Jan, 2013 12:31 pm
@Zardoz,
Zardoz wrote:

What was Adam Lanza thinking? Maybe he chose to emulate his hero Mosses and slaughter children. Certainly society holds Mosses up as a hero for young people to emulate. You cannot hold someone up as a role model and expect young people to focus on the good and ignore the bad.


In this case, what would knowing Adam Lanza's belief or lack of belief add to our understanding of such a horrible event. Say, if he was an observant Buddhist, would that in any way suggest that Buddhism endorse mass murder of children? And if he was an atheist, would this in any way mean that atheism encourages mass murder of children?

Anyway, I think you're jumping into pure speculation for this case in Connecticut based on your fevered notions on religion.
reasoning logic
 
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Thu 3 Jan, 2013 03:41 pm
@izzythepush,
Hi Izzy. I know how much you enjoy viewing my videos so I thought you might like this one as well. Please! If you find something not true would you be kind and point it out?

izzythepush
 
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Fri 4 Jan, 2013 05:08 am
@reasoning logic,
One of the main errors is that the pyramids were built by slaves. I watched this years ago, it's very good, you might like it.

reasoning logic
 
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Fri 4 Jan, 2013 04:51 pm
@izzythepush,
Thank you for sharing Izzy that was excellent and I would recommend everyone watch it. In my opinion it may be the best understanding that we have of what happened 4,000 years ago.

I do have a question though Why would you make this comment below after watching that video?
It talks about people not wanting to be hit in the first video and I think it was the forth or fifth video where a wealthy person was stating he was grateful to own slaves.

Sure they may have gave the same medical attention to a slave as they would have a wealthy person, because they knew that they could get more performance out of the slave in the long run. It was a matter of profit.

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One of the main errors is that the pyramids were built by slaves.
izzythepush
 
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Sat 5 Jan, 2013 05:15 am
@reasoning logic,
'Don't ask me why. I'm just a strange and interesting person, I suppose. A bit like Anita Harris, only without the bullet hole, y'know.'
reasoning logic
 
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Sun 6 Jan, 2013 10:19 am
@izzythepush,

Rated xxx Christian


DavJohanis
 
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Sun 6 Jan, 2013 10:35 am
@John Creasy,
Jesus cripes!
Thats an attitude and a half man!
Nuff peeps be reelin!
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Arella Mae
 
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Sun 6 Jan, 2013 05:07 pm
@reasoning logic,
Okay Spade might think you are a nice respectful guy and all but I don't. That video just got you on my permanent ignore list
reasoning logic
 
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Sun 6 Jan, 2013 05:14 pm
@Arella Mae,
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Okay Spade might think you are a nice respectful guy and all but I don't. That video just got you on my permanent ignore list


Even though I rated xxx just to accommodate you because I know that you do not like to see things like that you now want to ignore me. How Christian of you? Why not of seen the xxx and ignored it? I guess it was too tempting.
Arella Mae
 
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Sun 6 Jan, 2013 05:21 pm
@reasoning logic,
Actually, it's because of what you just posted. I see your real feelings have now come out. I ignored you but yes, was curious about what you'd have to say. I'm glad I looked. It only proved to me my assessment of you was right. Don't bother responding because I won't be reading it again.
 

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