Atheists... Your life is pointless

You have obviously not learned the lesson I tried to teach you when I asked you a question you were too neurotic to answer in return for a personal question you asked me.

And my question was tame. I can do a lot better if you persist in claiming a one-sided privilege in this regard.

You are taking advantage of people with better manners that you have been brought up to have. And self evidently. Using reasoning logic I mean.

What does something to do consist of?

I asked if you could go into more detail of your question below.




In reply you give this reply.

You know the detail. You're just being obtuse.

OK so if you think that you know "that I know the details of your question then why ask me?

Then you could tell us all what they were. I'm interested in what you consider having something to do consists of.

The premier martyr of atheism had no difficulties with such a question. He didn't even need to be asked.

The answer is whiten the question spendius, something to do consists of having something.

Could be...and then again, maybe not.

Me...I do not know.

Face it rl. You shouldn't have asked ntd the question you did. Nor should you ask a lot of those types of questions. Doing so highlights your obvious extreme narcissism. And also the intelligence of those you must ask such questions of all the time in order for it to have become such an ingrained habit.

This is a learning site. You're here to either be abled to know or the agent of us being abled to know. As you don't seem capable of either then your presence signifies you having nothing to do regarding A2K.

Do you think that if we were not around that we may still be able to have a conscious of reality?

Are you the new spokes person on behalf of A2K?

I think I will leave it at: I do not know the true nature of Reality.

From the way you framed your comment, apparently you do not either. It seems to me that you feel comfortable making the kind of guess you did because you have a vested interest in that non-duality thingy.

I don't feel comfortable making a guess at all.

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I can give you my opinion on the matter.

Reality of existence to man is formed by our cognitive ability to construct concepts such as the concepts of reality and existence. Reality seems to be a flux of multiple things taking place at the same time. If we were not around to detect these things they may continue to happen but there would be no conscious by us to know this.

I hold that area of thought on the back burner too, as an alternate possibility, even in light of any gained truth of scientific or religious value.

Only in the sense that I would be a spokesman for the snooker players if somebody started playing space hoppers in the snooker room. Or for the gents if a feminist claimed the right to do what she wants with her own body in the Gents. (And that would be harmless--even a good laugh.)

Were you feeling uncomfortable everytime you made a guess Frank or is it that you were not conscious of making guesses all the time in the nature of things.

I suppose I ought to say when you are awake in case you take "all the time" too literally.

Bennet as we delve further into the field of Artificial Intelligence we realize there are more similarities than differences. A philosophy is simply the interface that lets us interact with physical world, a program if you will. It allows us to proses data from the physical world and output suitable actions much the same way a word processor program allows us to interact with the paper (physical world). If we see a speeding truck coming down the highway (input) our philosophy tells us to stop and not cross the street (output). In a word processor when we hit a string of characters on a keyboard (input) we can print out that string of characters on paper (output).

Bennet your point about different processors is well taken, I have many programs that are not compatible with my newer computers. So I will grant you that point and will change my analogy to all the same model of computers running compatible programs. Now does that make you feel better? We will assume for purpose of this analogy that human brains are all the same model processor.

Religion is a special subset of philosophy relating to the supernatural world, there are numerous variations. If you chose to load and run one of these programs and many people do, it changes how you interact with the world. These programs contain divine language that overwrites all other programs including the innate morality program that has evolved thru evolution. In the mind of someone running a religious program divine knowledge trumps everything else. Gods and religious programs like everything else have an innate drive to survive and religious ritual is designed to keep the cult strong.

The knowledge of 2,000 years was very limited and that is reflected in the religions of that time period. Man’s morality has evolved since that time. The keeping of slaves was a common and accepted practice during biblical times; several of the main biblical characters keep slaves. In fact we still have people who keep slaves to this day at least until law enforcement finds them. Slavery has disappeared from most of the civilized world but it is still alive and well in the religious programs.

It seems ignorance can be preserved in fact it can be made immortal in a religious program. Bad line of code can be deleted from a word processing program but divine knowledge cannot be deleted.

Then your logic makes no sense then...If people can drop their faith but never get rid of the knowledge they have learned...Why would you think that a rejection is correct? When you are already admitting that you drop your faith because of faliure to acknowledge what you already think you know...Or believe...Or thought...Or believed...

There is no good reason why you could not get rid of the things you have heard...Or learned...If atheism is correct...Unless you are saying you can't get rid of it, because you may think it is correct but do not want to follow what the heart says, but what the mind wants...

Sorry, but as a believer, AI, is nothing like having a belief...You have to constantly work at your beliefs to be able to say that you truly do believe...With AI...It is nothing more than being told by another what you should do...Or having someone else enter thoughts or actions in your own free thinking mind....Not the same...

I just do not like to make a guess about the true nature of Reality, Spendius. I realize how futile it is, because the possibilities are almost endless.

This is not to say I have not made guesses in the past.

I'm not sure if that answers your question, but if not, ask it again and I will respond.

By the way...on the specific issue of whether or not a GOD exists, when pressed, I have often made a guess by flipping a coin.

Zardoz, I notice you have not dealt with my questions of earlier:



If a GOD (or gods) EXIST...how would that be supernatural? Wouldn't that be natural?

You seem to be saying that gods do not exist, but you are leaving an escape hatch with your wording.

Are you saying that gods CANNOT POSSIBLY exist?

And if it is NOT impossible for gods to exist...why are you so dismissive of the people who guess that way?

Gods exist. Have you ever heard an atheist preacher preach before? This is 10 years old but still valid.

Have you ever seen anything like this before? It is kind of a word game.