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Atheists... Your life is pointless

 
 
Bennet
 
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Thu 13 Dec, 2012 02:42 pm
@spendius,
I find that humorous, as, pessimistically speaking, we're just earthworms with better accessories.
Frank Apisa
 
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Thu 13 Dec, 2012 02:51 pm
@spendius,
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Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5193784)
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And yourself is a tube with a hole at each end with reproductive organs which has evolved deterministically and only looks like a sophisticated citizen to the untrained eye and an inordinate capacity for flattering self-delusion.


That has meaning for even half-baked scientific sensibilities.


I'll accept your word on that, Spendius. If anyone should know about half-baked scientific sensibilities...you are that person.

Perhaps you did not notice my question to you earlier.

Do you KNOW if gods exist or not?
Frank Apisa
 
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Thu 13 Dec, 2012 02:54 pm
@spendius,
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Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5193784)
That's not a kitten--it's a cat.


He is less than a year old...and we consider him a kitten.

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We have a kitten. He's called Meep. We have trained him to fetch like a dog does with a stick. He has a little fluffy toy mouse. Well- it's ours really I suppose. We hold this thing out, it's a bit bedraggled now though, and tell him to "sit there". Which he does. Then we throw the mouse across the room and he darts after it like greased lightning, grabs it in his teeth whilst growling, brings it back, drops it near our feet and goes back to his sitting spot for another go. I've never heard of a kitten doing that before. He'll pack it in as soon as he becomes a cat.

We are starting to think he might be training us.


Sounds interesting, but you lost me when you wrote the words, "We are starting to think..."

C'mon!
spendius
 
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Thu 13 Dec, 2012 02:56 pm
@Bennet,
Darwin ended up studying earthworms. I think that everything in the top 5ft 11 in of the earth's crust has been earthworm **** at some time or other. Not counting some of the stuff we have put there.

That must be why graves are six foot.

On Ilkla Moor Baht 'at.
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Thu 13 Dec, 2012 03:21 pm
@izzythepush,
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Oh, so it's turned into one of those threads has it.

Well this is my cat Vic, he's a complete bastard.

Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green

Nice pic mate...


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spendius
 
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Thu 13 Dec, 2012 04:01 pm
@Frank Apisa,
I don't know whether you are getting up the noses of others with this damn fool question of yours but you're starting to get up mine. I've answered it three times.

What would you like me to say? Give me what you think are my alternatives for an answer that will satisfy you. I know gods don't exist.

Keep asking me the question is a mere gambit designed to give others the impression that I have continually avoided answering it and thus am running away from your superior wisdom.

What does exist mean? Matter is dynamic.
spendius
 
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Thu 13 Dec, 2012 04:06 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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Sounds interesting, but you lost me when you wrote the words, "We are starting to think..."


It's a variation on an old joke. You C'mon.

You're trying to parlez no reading or rubbish reading into intellectual competence.
Frank Apisa
 
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Thu 13 Dec, 2012 04:06 pm
@spendius,
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Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5193886)
I don't know whether you are getting up the noses of others with this damn fool question of yours but you're starting to get up mine. I've answered it three times.

What would you like me to say? Give me what you think are my alternatives for an answer that will satisfy you. I know gods don't exist.

Keep asking me the question is a mere gambit designed to give others the impression that I have continually avoided answering it and thus am running away from your superior wisdom.

What does exist mean? Matter is dynamic.


Sorry about your nose, Spendius. But since the question could have been answered with a simple "yes" or "no"...and since you really have not done that prior to this last post...you are the problem, not I.

So...you KNOW gods do not exist!

That is an impossibility, Spendius...so it is nonsense.

If you had answered that you KNOW gods exist...I could not be so certain. If gods exist...they could reveal that no matter how unlikely it appears.

But there is absolutely NO WAY to KNOW gods do not exist.

I'll give you a second shot at it.

Do you KNOW if gods exist or not?



Do you KNOW if gods exist or not?
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Thu 13 Dec, 2012 04:16 pm
@spendius,
Hopeless and ridiculous mate...Why even bother?...
spendius
 
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Thu 13 Dec, 2012 04:19 pm
@Frank Apisa,
I know gods don't exist except in the Materialist Theory of Mind scenario where thoughts are physical objects.

But that's out of your comprehension.

Do you know that thoughts are not physical objects?
Frank Apisa
 
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Thu 13 Dec, 2012 04:57 pm
@spendius,
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Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5194002)
I know gods don't exist except in the Materialist Theory of Mind scenario where thoughts are physical objects.


Ahhh...I see the misunderstanding now. You thought I was asking you if you KNEW if any gods in the Materialist Theory of Mind scenario that are physical objects....exist.

No. Actually, all I was asking was: Do you KNOW if gods exist or not?

Jeez, I cannot understand how that misunderstanding occurred. I thought my question printed out exactly as I wrote it.


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But that's out of your comprehension.


Gosh, do you think so? You really think you are so much brighter than I that I cannot even comprehend when you are trying to beat around the bush.

Nah...I'm on to you.

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Do you know that thoughts are not physical objects?


No...but if you hum a few bars, I'll try to fake it.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Thu 13 Dec, 2012 05:59 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Do you think, that you know, that you have a rejection of both?

Or do you think, that you do not know, that you have a rejection of both?



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spendius
 
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Thu 13 Dec, 2012 06:01 pm
@Frank Apisa,
So you don't know whether thoughts and ideas are physical objects or not.

How can they be anything else unless you posit immaterial objects?

I have answered your question.

Are thoughts material objects or not? Ideas, feelings, emotions, beliefs. Are they physical objects or not?

I know how the misunderstanding occurred. It's you trying to parlez no reading or rubbish reading into intellectual mustard cutting. Counter jumping in other words.
Frank Apisa
 
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Thu 13 Dec, 2012 06:09 pm
@spendius,
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Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5194095)
So you don't know whether thoughts and ideas are physical objects or not.

How can they be anything else unless you posit immaterial objects?

I have answered your question.

Are thoughts material objects or not? Ideas, feelings, emotions, beliefs. Are they physical objects or not?

I know how the misunderstanding occurred. It's you trying to parlez no reading or rubbish reading into intellectual mustard cutting. Counter jumping in other words.


Correcting your own homework here, Spendius?

Tell me...is surgery necessary to correct most gastrointestinal problems?
spendius
 
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Thu 13 Dec, 2012 06:09 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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Hopeless and ridiculous mate...Why even bother?...


I know Spade but it passes the time.

What is time? Looked at in the perspective of the Universe.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Thu 13 Dec, 2012 06:15 pm
@spendius,
I know mate...It is difficult to stay away...

I should not even bother myself since I am being ignored...

But it is hard to stay away when you see someone saying that they have no beliefs...And then telling others how they are incorrect in their own beliefs...And not comprehending that that is an actual belief...
spendius
 
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Thu 13 Dec, 2012 06:16 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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Tell me...is surgery necessary to correct most gastrointestinal problems?


No.

What's a gastrointestinal problem? If it is one that needs surgery then yes. Alka Seltzer is common as a cure. Or waiting a day or two.

From a universal perspective "most" gastrointestinal problems had, maybe still have, no surgical cure.

You're back in your room in New Jersey again Frank.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Thu 13 Dec, 2012 06:20 pm
@spendius,
Actually in case some people suffer with that...I heard a natural cure is to drink raw cabbage juice for about a week...1 liter or so...It sucks to do...But it is better than taking a pill everyday...And I know people who have that problem and it is pain in the arse...It cures the erosions...
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spendius
 
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Thu 13 Dec, 2012 06:21 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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Correcting your own homework here, Spendius?


What's wrong with that? You mark yours.
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Thu 13 Dec, 2012 07:00 pm
I think this should just about do it...Cause it explains it complex and simple...And it makes a common point where belief and doubt meet that can't be avoided...

Do you think you know you have a belief?

Or do you think you know you don't have a belief?

2 Cents
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