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Atheists... Your life is pointless

 
 
spendius
 
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Sun 1 Jul, 2012 07:36 am
@BillRM,
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God must however love the men of Japan for example as for reasons of diet or god good will it is very rare in that country.


In that case the problem is obviously cultural. As I implied.

In Greece the life expectancy for men is higher than in most western countries and they smoke more than anybody else. The anti-smoking fascists have that stuff on Ignore.

There are dietary proscriptions in the Bible. And attitude proscriptions as well.

Could it be deranged immune systems? The Ability to Inculcate Deadly ****. Kicking in earlier in proportion to the amount and quality of the deadly ****.

Some have claimed that even "accidents" are not as accidental as they seem. I have often been proved correct when I have predicted in the pub that such and such a person will not be long before sporting a plaster cast, slings, crutches and even a coffin. One can see from some behaviours that they are asking for it.
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spendius
 
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Sun 1 Jul, 2012 07:38 am
@reasoning logic,
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Could the evidence be that God believing people get plagues and prostate problems as well?


Would it be too much trouble rl for you to be reasonable and logical from time to time?
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spendius
 
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Sun 1 Jul, 2012 09:06 am
@farmerman,
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apparently spendi thinks he is also so capricious as to routinely rain design problems on animals and man alike.


Which animals? Animals under domestication are not the total set of animals by any stretch. If you are talking about AUDs then you are guilty of the anthropomorphism you charge me with.

Which animals in nature have design problems? To suggest that they have is to criticise evolution. I've already told you that evolution is just another word for God minus the sexual inhibitions. If you continually ignore such obvious facts you will never move your conk one step forward from where it was when you began your habit of ignoring anything inconvenient and you will become so anthropomorphic that it will be called farmerpomorphic and as subjective as a cat on a hot tin roof.

One fine literary gentleman said that he picked the books he would read at random from second-hand bookshop shelves. The library being anthropomorphic if there's a committee involved. Even his method has an element of anthropomorphism in it because publishers have selection. When you choose your reading, or TV viewing, too carefully your lanes get narrower and narrower. Hey presto you're an expert. And you know **** all about anything outside of your refined expertise but have got so up yourself by being a recognised expert that you not only think you do know about other things but have got so ******* cocky, due to searching out fawning acolytes, students who need your okay to get the cash-cow certificate, that you think it your duty to inform us on it all as it comes up. Even on football and you know nothing whatsoever (tautology for emphasis) about that having watched too many games from the wrong point of view. i.e. your own.

Try reading What Katie Did Next and see if you can figure out what Ms Coolidge had in mind. It was a material state in her mind. You can't tolerate the idea of immaterial mental states. Incidentally, that title is the name of a lingerie merchandising operation. Comics might be a good place to start your journey of penitence. Destry Rides Again. Delia Smith's cookery book. The bill of lading for The Bounty. The Age of Steam. The sale catalogue of Madame de Pompadour's effects after her demise.

Even bad writers have something worth saying.

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Just becpome a child of the Universe spendi and quit trying to anthropomorphise the weather and biology.


In an essay, Greek Science, by G.S. Kirk there is this--

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The truth is that when the Greeks needed a model for regularity in nature they found it in the planned intellectual activity of man, particularly of the artist or craftsman deliberately shaping his material to a preconceived end. They did not find it, as men since the Renaissance , in the soulless regularity of the machine; they did not have many machines and they did not like the idea of machines as such. The mechanical elements in causation, like Socrates' sinews, were held to be subsiduary and unimportant, and, for Plato, at least, to be beneath the detailed attention of the true thinker.


And you scoffed at me saying that Plato was mad.

Mr Kirk goes on--I felt the interruption necessary like with potting the black---

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This is partly an effect of living in a slave-owning society; for if slaves do most of the work, it is a short step to believing that the exact processes of production are uninteresting; and even those who did not own slaves seem to have regarded technology as unnecessary.


Hence the slave owners of the south, whatever else they were, were upholding an ancient intellectual tradition in the face of the soulless and uninteresting regularity of the machine. Evolution being the only judge of the relative merits rather than some temporary ascendency due to what might be called performance enhancing substances of the sort A.B. Nobel is justly famous for as well as for pissing off all his relations by leaving most of his dough to fund a conceit festivity ceremonial (the twat) with the skimmings running down to empower the narrow expertises I mentioned above to run amok and telling us all what to think about the higher things in life whilst taking up Viagra to correct limpidity.

Man does not live by bread alone. Your anthropomorphism is like the trees you can't see the wood for.



spendius
 
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Sun 1 Jul, 2012 09:17 am
@spendius,
I love being thumbed down. It proves I've rattled some silly tweeting machine.

How could one not write to get folk rattled. Only a double deep-dyed to the marrow conservative would think otherwise. Standing upright must have rattled the four-footers.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Sun 1 Jul, 2012 10:38 am
@spendius,
I got your back mate! Cause I like what you said...And hate the purposely voting down...They will all read 1 now! Have a good day Spendi!
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cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 2 Jul, 2012 04:50 am
@Spiritual,
You wrote,
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Everyone life is pointless without God. God is the supreme power who manage all universe .


He manages the universe all right! He destroys lives by the thousands with his natural disasters we call hurricanes, tsunamis, landslides, floods, earthquakes, and droughts. Forget about praying, because no god is listening to your plea for help; they kill by the masses no matter what religion one belongs to.
spendius
 
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Mon 2 Jul, 2012 05:10 am
@cicerone imposter,
But hurricanes, tsunamis, landslides, floods, earthquakes, and droughts are forces which empower evolution aren't they? Like the fences in the Grand National they are there to find the best examples of a species. If everything was on a steady state even keel we would still be pond life. Tests and obstacles perfect the species.
farmerman
 
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Mon 2 Jul, 2012 05:18 am
@spendius,
Autocorrelation is for teeny minds and the religious.Where do you fit?
cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 2 Jul, 2012 06:45 am
@farmerman,
Some people miss the whole point of the message, and twist it around to something else that have no relevance. "Teeny minds" is too generous!
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spendius
 
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Mon 2 Jul, 2012 10:57 am
@farmerman,
Will you explain what you mean fm? Otherwise you are engaged in pointless insults of zero validity.

What are you objecting to in my post? It seems obvious to me. I even gave an absurd example in the hope it would clarify the point.

With no He to blame for hurricanes, tsunamis, landslides, floods, earthquakes, and droughts where do you go next? If it is that they can't be blamed for the mayhem they cause, and neither can He, then oughtn't you to cease bothering about them.
BillRM
 
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Mon 2 Jul, 2012 11:55 am
@spendius,
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With no He to blame for hurricanes, tsunamis, landslides, floods, earthquakes, and droughts where do you go next? If it is that they can't be blamed for the mayhem they cause, and neither can He, then oughtn't you to cease bothering about them.


Bothering about them?

Let see tsunamis better warning systems and sea walls.....landslides...better planting on hills sides and restraining walls.....floods better flood controls<dams>......earthquakes better warning /predicting systems better building codes.......hurricanes better predicting models and restarting such programs as the 1960s storm fury experiments in seeding the eye walls using our far better understanding and far larger planes.........

Humans had a history of dealing with such problems going back to the first dams many thousands of years ago.

It is god will thinking that interfere with dealing with "mother" nature is not helpful see the resistant to placing lightening rods on church towers
cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 2 Jul, 2012 12:05 pm
@BillRM,
But the damndest of reality is that churches burn down too! Where's god when you need him?

How can he save souls when he can't even protect his temples?
spendius
 
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Mon 2 Jul, 2012 01:47 pm
@BillRM,
You seem to have missed the point Bill. Do you really think I don't know of those devices? Or anybody else?

It's obvious that atheists like you and c.i. and many others who put the responsibility of the world's evils down to a God you say does not exist have lost the use of reason in your desperate efforts to justify infractions of the Christian codes on sexual morality.

Why you can't come clean is beyond me and can only result from intellectual cowardice. If you object to those moral codes why don't you get on with attacking them and either offering a moral code of your own or recommending having no moral code.
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farmerman
 
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Mon 2 Jul, 2012 01:49 pm
@cicerone imposter,
God musta really had a hard-on for the Jews.
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spendius
 
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Mon 2 Jul, 2012 03:09 pm
@BillRM,
Is it beyond your wits Bill to see the Christian religion as a man-made device like your warning systems and sea walls only it is attempting to prevent far worse evils than the localised problems caused by hurricanes and earthquakes.

Just as codes of manners and etiquette are artificial devices designed to avoid animalistic behaviour patterns and are believed in intellectually by many people and adhered to in the main by those who recognise their artificiality.

It's your dick Bill. There's no other place to run. Stick up for your evolved urges and stop being neurotic about them. All's fair in love and war.

Likewise the rest of you dingbats who have no conception of life without religion. Or without manners and etiquette.

What about the tax collection plate which is passed round by law in those areas not prone to earthquakes or hurricanes so that some can have their sea views and sunny bathing and surfing facilities subsidised whilst knowing the risks they are running by living in such places?
spendius
 
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Mon 2 Jul, 2012 03:14 pm
@spendius,
Marriage is an artificial device to avoid the social implications of no marriage. And you believe in that sufficiently to volunteer for a ball and chain.
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BillRM
 
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Fri 13 Jul, 2012 01:10 pm
@spendius,
Sorry but the history of all religions had shown zero benefits as far as getting humans to get along better in or out of the same society.

In fact it had time after time religion had acted against the human trendy to get along as pack animals.

It seems to had the benefit however of allowing more society control over the lower classes by the rulers and that can be either a very good thing or a very evil thing.

spendius
 
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Fri 13 Jul, 2012 01:13 pm
@BillRM,
Which do you think it is then Bill?
BillRM
 
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Fri 13 Jul, 2012 01:26 pm
@spendius,
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Which do you think it is then Bill?


It depend on the rulers and on the times and in a technology society stability seems to depend on having power spread out with many stakeholders and that condition is not aided by any religion.
spendius
 
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Fri 13 Jul, 2012 03:17 pm
@BillRM,
You have justified your argument with an assertion Bill and it is one not many accept.
 

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