Atheists... Your life is pointless

I got one a them mineral waters in the fridge.

Sorry to have seemed judgmental. It just seems irksome when a thread deteriorates to a 'you're a bigot!' 'you're a moron!' name calling contest.

As for me, I've never met an a2ker I didn't like.

ci is on his way,Im sittin here with a cup of red bush tea and its all good.

In the immortal words of Lucy van Pelt:

"Don't you know sarcasm when you hear it, Charlie Brown?"

I just find it funny that you are able to excuse nearly anything that is anti-Christian with a shrug, but you're so touchy about everything else, EB.

Apparently you just don't see the double standard.

Kinda like when you have BBQ sauce on your chin, everyone but you can see it.

No thanks on the Lone Star, but if you ever make it up here my direction, I will treat you to the world's best BBQ. Then we can laugh about the sauce on each other's chin. And anything else that strikes us as funny.

Atheist...All dressed up and no place to go.
-Spanish proverb

real life
If you have read enough of my atheist related posts you would see how wrong you are. I don't attack something simply because it's Christian, but only when that Christianity threatens my freedom to move. I am not involved in the thing you quoted, but I know by personal experience how antiabortion Christians are all over anybody they disagree with. To call someone against them a bigot is a matter of personal perspective. I never attacked Christianity until after many years of harrassment and watching our freedoms of choice in religious matters became increasingly curtailed or threatened. I always considered Christians wildly misguided, but was and still am prepared to strike a truce anytime they decide to back off (something they are incapable of doing).

Atheists... Your life is pointless is a very poor title for this, or any thread. As a Christian, I am offended by it.

The life of a atheist is not pointless. No life is pointless. Who are we, as Christians, to judge them or anybody else? It is not our place to judge lest we be judged.

It is easy to see why some atheists and agnostics have the views that they do when threads like this are started. I know, I know...it was probably started in retalitation for one of the many threads started by non-believers in the religious forums. If that is so, it is still not right.

For me, I have nothing against an atheist. I have nothing against anyone. I may not agree with them, but if they have all of the information that is available to make their own decision nobody should judge them or try to force other beliefs upon them.

Just as all Christians are not alike... all atheists are not alike.

Well . . . actually, we are . . . but ours is a secret, vast, world-wide conspiracy, and i've said too much already . . .

I guess I'm the only person on the thread who doesn't have a problem with the thread title beyond the sillyness of the assertion. I'm sure Frank would approve as well though.

Is there an atheist's bible? I'll bet it's a quick read.

There is actually a very pathetic aspect to the thread title. By inference, it states that a theist's life is meaningful because of the theist's belief in a deity. It externalizes the individual's sense of self-worth, and worse, identifies it with their imaginary friend, whose existence cannot be demonstrated. All rather sad, really.

sort of like AA which states, in essence, "You poor schmuck, you are incapable of handling your own affairs and , without help from a secret friend , higher than you, you will fail in everything you do."

I always had a problem with those kind of organizations. Most religions fit within that realm.
Do you think that the overtly religous have problems with self esteem?

HMMM, somebody really nasty could start a thread with a name as offensive as this one

When i gave up the booze, i just personally reached the point at which neither the taste of the available beverages, nor the buzz, nor the companions were any longer appealing to me. No twelve-step method would ever have worked, and even less so with the insistence on acknowledging "a higher power." Your point is dead on target, FM--we're happy to help you as soon as you abase yourself and convince us that you know you are an unworthy worm.

If I were to belive in UFO's would that count?

I dunno, Boss, you'd have to ask them AA folks . . . it does seem like it should qualify, though, don't it?

I have a friend in AA for about ten years now who considers the room of people his Higher Being..
Me, I think that's switching addictions, but whatever gets y' through the nights and days.

I don't think you are being very fair to those in 12-Step Programs. AA, NA, Al-Anon, etc., are responsible for saving the lives of many.

For some (most IMO) it is nearly impossible to overcome the addiction of drugs or alcohol without some kind of help. The most important aspect of AA, etc., is that the person needing help realizes they are not alone. Through the sharing of members' (might not be the right word) experiences, strengths, and hopes they can help another overcome their addiction.

No one says that God has to be their Higher Power. It is not a religious program. It is a spiritual program.

Yup. I am not thinking of the mainstream religious, who simply attend their houses of worship, for whatever reason, but don't make a big deal out of it. It is merely a part of their lives, and is set in an appropriate perspective.

I have noticed in my travels through life, that those who are virulently religious, usually have clung to a religion (often a new-found one) after a history of failure in dealing with their lives. Scratch a Bible thumper, and I would bet, based experience with people that I have known personally, that there is a history of drug abuse, alcoholism, physical, emotional or sexual abuse, failure in the world of work, or other emotional problems.

Happy, fulfilled people enjoy their lives without having to look constantly outside of themselves for guidance and answers. Their moral compass is internal, developed as children, and enriched by adult experience.

Sorry Phoenix, but I see very little truth in what you have just said.

* I agree with the first paragragh

* This is quite a statement. Do you have any statistics, or is this just your travels through life best guess? From my experience and travels through life, I find this laughable actually. Sure, a small percentage may fall into this, but really now.

* Most happy, fulfilled people that I know got that way by having a faith and a love for life, nature, people and God. Their moral compass was developed as children and maintained by their faith.

You apparently don't know many people outside the compass of your preferred superstition, in that case.