Atheists... Your life is pointless

Real, I am an independent that has generally voted for Republican presidential candidates up until Bush I's second term.

Neither party has a lock on perfection. Generally when either party has full control, things go downhill.

This current administration just happens to be the most corrupt and incompetent in matters of extreme importance of any administration I can remember.

Here's a short list of potential criminal violations for which prosecutors decided not to file indictments during the Clinton administration.

• Lying under oath to a federal judge - a crime U.S. District Court Judge Susan Webber Wright determined that President Clinton committed in the Paula Jones sexual harasssment case. Legal resolution: No criminal indictment.

• Lying under oath to a federal grand jury - as Independent Counsel Ken Starr found President Clinton had done in the Monica Lewinsky investigation. Legal resolution: No criminal indictment.

• Lying under oath both to Congress and to federal investigators - as Independent Counsel Robert Ray concluded that Mrs. Clinton had done in the Travel Office probe. Legal resolution: No indictment

• Hiding evidence from Starr's Whitewater investigation - as the Senate Banking Committee concluded Mrs. Clinton did in the case of her missing Rose Law firm billing records. Legal resolution: No criminal referral, no indictments

• Trading presidential pardons for finanical contributions - which President Clinton allegedly did in the Pardongate case. Legal resolution: No indictments.

• Trading presidential clemency for votes in a federal election - as President Clinton allegedly did with village elders in New Square, NY - which backed Mrs. Clinton's 2000 Senate candidacy 1400 to 12. Legal resolution: No indictments

• Nuclear missile guidance technology allegedly traded by the Clinton adminsitration to China in exchange for campaign contributions. Legal resolution: No indictments.

• The Illegal gathering of confidential FBI files on political opponents - as the Clinton White House did in the Filegate case. Legal resolution: No indictments.

• Misusing the IRS to audit political opponents - as the White House allegedly did with numerous conservative organizations, as well as with witnesses against the Clintons. Legal resolution: No indictments.

• Hiring private detectives to intimidate and/or smear potential witnesses in the Starr investigation. Legal resolution: No indictments.

• Illegally leaking Linda Tripp's confidential personnel file to the press. Legal resolution: No indictments.

Why can't i edit my posts?

Why can't i edit my posts?

.......... I have stated elsewhere that I do not see the same fears in Canada as are apparent in the U.S. I don't know if this is because we are more tolerant or if we are so diversivied and multi-cultural that we see things differently.

I belief that we should have the right to our beliefs, but I also think that religion should not be part of politics. We should support our governments as best we can and hope that they make the decisions that are best for our countries without infringing on our religious beliefs.

That is my 2ø CDN which is worth somewhat less than 2ø American.

Peace

Canadian Government Caught Funding Anti-Christian Bigotry - Minister Won't Apologize

OTTAWA, October 27, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A Conservative MP has discovered through documents obtained under Access to Information that Status of Women Canada has been funding anti-Christian bigotry and pro-abortion activism. However, in a startling exchange of correspondence, the Minister responsible for the funding neither offered to pull the funding nor to apologize to Christian Canadians for funding groups which defame them.

Writing to Minister of Canadian Heritage and Minister responsible for Status of Women Liza Frulla last month, Conservative MP Maurice Vellacott pointed out that the documents obtained through access to information requests revealed the government granted $27,400 last year to the BC Pro-Choice Action network (pro-CAN).

In his letter to the Minister, MP Vellacott notes:

Pro-CAN spokesperson Joyce Arthur uses derogatory labels to describe individuals who are pro-life, saying their opposition to abortion, "comes primarily from religious justifications for oppressing women" and a need to "maximize (the Catholic Church's) membership levels to maintain their worldly influence and wealth." Pro-CAN accuses pro-life Christians of being "religious fanatics" who do "little or nothing for children once they are born." She says pro-life Christians are "anti-woman and anti-child," have views which are "uninformed, sexist, cruel," and lack the ability to empathize which "breeds intolerance, hate crimes, and war." Ms. Arthur says that the pro-lifer's attitude towards women is like "the slaveholder's attitude to blacks, and the Nazi's attitude to Jews."

Vellacott suggested that the Minister withdraw funding from the group and apologize to Christian Canadians for funding such bigotry. "The government should be taking no part in spreading this sort of bigotry. Please ensure that any current funding to Pro-CAN ceases immediately and that no future taxpayer money be given to this group. And please have your department issue a public apology to all Christians and pro-life Canadians because of your department's financial support of this hate mongering organization," said Vellacott.

In a curt reply dated October 18, Minister Frulla says, "I appreciate being made aware of your concerns." The Minister acknowledges that pro-CAN and the other pro-abortion activist groups mentioned in the letter by Vellacott, "did indeed receive funding under the women's Program of Status of Women Canada."

Frulla suggested she was well aware of the activities of pro-CAN, but found no objection to funding the anti-Christian group with public monies. "Each application is assessed according to a stringent set of objectives and criteria . . . Please be assured that the initiatives cited in your letter, which did indeed receive funding, met all of the above-mentioned objectives and eligibility criteria."

Frulla concluded her response, "Please accept my best wishes for the challenges ahead."

Express your concerns to the Prime Minister:
[email protected]
or write or fax the Prime Minister's office at:
Office of the Prime Minister
80 Wellington Street
Ottawa
K1A 0A2
Fax: 613-941-6900

To Liza Frulla
House of Commons
Ottawa, ON K1A 0A6
(613) 995-6403
[email protected]

See page 1 of Vellacott letter to Minister Frulla
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005_docs/Vellacott_letter_to_Frulla_page1.pdf
See page 2 of Vellacott letter
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005_docs/Vellacott_letter_to_Frulla_page2.pdf
See letter to Vellacott from Frulla
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005_docs/Frulla_letter_to_Vellacott.pdf

This goofy thread title wrote:

Atheists... Your life is pointless

That being the case, there's no reason to respond.

Smacks more of political moves for leverage in the abortion wars than simple anti Christian activity. I doubt any of those things would be tried by the same people if abortion were not such a hot issue.

Atheists... Your life is pointless

That has to be the most ignorant and un-Christian statement I have ever heard in my entire life. If you have to ask why, there's no hope for you.

As a worthless life atheist, I'm on my way to Barcelona today to begin a 15-day journey. Two nites in Barcelona, a 10-day cruise on the Insignia (rated #3 for cruise lines), and two nites in Athens. My life seems to have so little of adventure and value in my old age!

Enlighten us. Why?