Atheists... Your life is pointless

@cicerone imposter,

Yes there is,.....Stop being wicked and follow Me.
Noah took almost a hundred years to build the Ark. All the time preaching to the people to repent. Not one did.

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@Pookie53,

Repent from what? Babies had to repent too?

CLUE: Christianity was a relative newcomer in terms of religions in this world, and many in foreign countries (outside of christiandom) knew nothing of your god.

How were they warned? TV or the internet?

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@Pookie53,

Pookie wrote:

you didn't go to and read the link I gave you. OK That's fine.

I did. I just think it's claptrap that doesn't explain anything.

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@Thomas,

In your judgement........there is the crux. You are your own God and what you believe is the truth must be the truth. Killing people for no reason IS bad. God had a reason. He always has a reason. If you would like to investigate more what His hidden motives might have been then read the Bible without saying to yourself "this is a bunch of crap" at every verse. Smarter people than us have read the Bible and become Christians by doing it. You really don't think, honestly, that atheists have the corner on intelligence , do you?

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@cicerone imposter,

we were talking about Noah, right? 4000BC (way before Christ)
Only the parents can repent. Children go to Heaven. When you reach the age of Accountability then you choose for yourself.
They were warned the old fashioned way... word of mouth.... It was a smaller world then.

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@Pookie53,

[quote="Pookie53"That the sins of the father are visited on their children. [/quote]
In your opinion, is it just that children be punished for the sins of their children.

Pookie53 wrote:

Your father was an atheist like mine.? Or maybe a hypocritical so-called Christian who turned you away from God.?

No, my parents were both sincere Lutherans, who raised me to be a Lutheran myself. They didn't turn me off of the Christian religion -- reading the Bible did.

Pookie53 wrote:

Maybe God had to bring out the sword so that even worse evil would not continue on the earth? I don't know and I won't until I die.

Special pleading. When any other mass murderers assert that they had their reasons but don't see fit to disclose them, that doesn't stop us from condemning them. And it's a good thing too. Their excuse is as lame as "the dog ate my homework." Why should that impress us? And, if it doesn't impress us in general, why should we make an exception just because some Bronze Age myth tells us that the mass murderer happens to be the creator of the universe?

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@Pookie53,

Definition for "god,"

Quote:

Main Entry:
1god Listen to the pronunciation of 1god
Pronunciation:
\ˈgäd also ˈgȯd\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English, from Old English; akin to Old High German got god
Date:
before 12th century

1capitalized : the supreme or ultimate reality: as a: the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe bChristian Science : the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit : infinite Mind 2: a being or object believed to have more than natural attributes and powers and to require human worship ; specifically : one controlling a particular aspect or part of reality3: a person or thing of supreme value4: a powerful ruler

Foofie, You are free to call any human god, but it misses the true definition from most dictionaries.

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@Pookie53,

Pookie53 wrote:

You are your own God and what you believe is the truth must be the truth.

No I'm not. Nobody is anybody's good as far as I am concerned.

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@Thomas,

OK, Well that guy is much smarter than me... so it is probably getting very close to the time that I should give up............I think you are all pretty ready to dismiss me also.
I could keep going but things are starting to repeat themselves.
It's been challenging and I thank you all.

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@Pookie53,

Pookie, You seem to arrive at conclusions not evidenced from our responses.
Is that another religious trait?

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@Pookie53,

Pookie53 wrote:

You are your own God and what you believe is the truth must be the truth.

No I'm not. Nobody is anybody's good as far as I am concerned.

Pookie53 wrote:

Killing people for no reason IS bad. God had a reason.

You don't know that. You're hoping he does, but the Bible isn't telling you you the reason. Neither, by your own account, is God himself. So you're in no position to assert that god had a reason for killing people for no apparent reason. If you don't know, you don't know, and that's that.

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@Thomas,

That's the only way they can "rationalize" the killing of innocent babies and thousands of people with one swat of god's wand.

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@cicerone imposter,

CI, stop mistaking Pookie for foofie..

Foofie is Jew, not Christian. Twisted Evil

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@Francis,

Thanks for bringing that to light.

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@John Creasy,

So by the mere fact of your belief in a God of all creation you assume that you are privy to the knowledge of his entire ethical absolutes. A grossly egotistical assumption that equates your ethical framework with that of a supreme being. In fact, a discussion of ethics is only valid outside the shackles of a belief in an ultimate ethical arbiter as this presumption closes the book on any moral uncertainty as every question which arises can only be referred back to sacred scripture, whereas a belief that one cannot presume to know God allows us to ascertain whether an action is ethical or not using the only certainty available to us, the discriminative faculties of the human mind. This is true wherever you believe the origins of this mind stemmed from the randomness of natural selection or the precision of a divine thunderbolt.

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Pookie says hi. She enjoyed the discourse and says there are some sharp minds on A2k

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Prof. Dawkins admitted in a TV interview last Sunday that he is an atheist and that everything is pointless.

He went on to claim that he had given his life a point by writing his books and upsetting all the old dears at the seances and fortune-telling booths. He didn't mention his 3 marriages.

But if everything is pointless, which is where he started, then his books and the seances and himself and you and me and everything we do, including participating in this debate, must be pointless. Which is to say that he claimed that something pointless could have a point.

He said that all intelligent people were atheists and asked Adam Boulton, the interviewer, whether he was an atheist. Mr Boulton replied that he was asking the questions not answering them.

He was promoting his latest book so if you like pointlessly reading pointless books you should pointlessly rush to the pointless shops and buy it with your pointless money.

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@spendius,

I've never understood the argument about 'the meaning of life' - there is no meaning except the meaning we give it...each invidual can give it little or lots of meaning. What is meaningful and to what degree something is meaningful is different for each person.

For many, believing in a God and a greater purpose provides a meaningful life. For others, there is no need for acquired belief (ie religions) to have a meaningful life.

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@vikorr,

I agree with the existentialists that existence precedes essense: in other words the world exists and awaits the meanings we (the meaning-making species) ascribe to it. To take the opposite view, that meanings are "out there" independent of human mentation reminds me of the joke about the farmer (?) who said to the astronomer that he admired his discipline's discoveries of the various planets but asked for an explanation of how astronomers discovered their names.

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@vikorr,

And all that is a function of our genes and environment.

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