Atheists... Your life is pointless

Why do you say "that you find so awful"? Am I to understand that as far as you are concerned, the deliberate torturing and killing of innocent children is not awful?

She has the same mindset as Bill Cosby who said to his child; "I brought you into this world, and I can take you out!"

Now, that's a great Freudian slip!

I was referring to the death of the innocent children in Thomas' post.
I do accept that I will die when I die. It would be difficult to compare the serenity and inner peace I have over what you have. I don't know how you would measure that.
Personally I am not anxious about my future life in Heaven.

Really? Personally, I have serenity and inner peace, a huge amount of it, concerning my belief that there is no afterlife. It provides a richness of experience that you probably don't experience.

Cycloptichorn

I'm not sure why it's Everybody dies!

I'm 74 years old, and my father died when he was 32. Relatively speaking, I've lived a pretty good life with no regrets if I should die tomorrow. It will not be a "horrible fate" for me!

I totally get that you are not a Christian......that is very obvious of course.
If you have read the Bible twice and still haven't seen the goodness of God then I cannot convince you. God's word is stronger than anything I could ever say. From Hebrews:

12For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. 13Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account.

God said to "Give thanks in all things" . I believe the reason He did that was to Again, take the focus off our own selves and accomplishments and put them on God. It is an antedote against pride, the worst sin of all, the one that caused Satan to fall from being the greatest angel to being a pitiful liar who is destined for the flames.
I don't agree with your conclusion, I find God's ways infinitely interesting and instructing.

I said (as it is) I just meant that you brought it up

Ok I can't prove you don't.

Why do we think that death is a horrible condition? There is no reason to believe that it is any worse than--or different from--our non-existence before birth. We talk so much about "after life" but not at all about "before birth." Moreoever, there cannot be a "state of death." After I die there will be no "me" to be in a STATE of death*, no predicate without a subject.

*Keep in mind that we do not think of a "me" who was in a state of pre-birth.

Thanks, don't assume that people are unhappy or don't have peace, just b/c they don't think like you.

As for 'being convinced by God's word,' you don't seem to get that we don't understand why you believe that which is written in the bible is actually 'God's word.' How can you base your beliefs on things for which there is no underlying evidence or logic? It is baffling to me!

Cycloptichorn

Again I was referring to the Horrible Fate of the innocent children that Thomas mentioned . I don't believe that death is a horrible fate. It is our fate, our natural fate as humans. The subject is your soul that was created when you were conceived.

They're not just deaths, they're killings! And by the Bible's own account, God is the killer. Moreover, the murders were not a fate, they were a choice -- and it's the God of the Bible who made the choice! You're obviously uncomfortable seeing the Bible describe the god you believe in as a mass murderer of innocent children. That's why you're downplaying them as "deaths" that "you" find so horrible. Good for you, Pookie! Your moral compass is working. It's god's moral compass that is defective here.

You can believe in a God all you wish,all the same , just keep watching the radar screen.

It is baffling to me that you can believe there is no creator.

Really? Just what does the mass murder of innocent children instruct you in?

Actually, the great flood of god killed innocent men, women and children. There must be a good lesson there - someplace!

you didn't go to and read the link I gave you. OK That's fine.
As God said to Job
"Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation?
Tell me, if you understand. "

You cannot know why God did what He did. You cannot know how evil and horrible the people were whom He killed. You can't know why God did what He did because (to use a popular phrase) It would be like trying to explain the Internet to an ant. I don't understand it either. But God does not explain Himself to us or try to justify His actions to us. He knows what He had to do.
We will only know more when we are in heaven.

12Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

That's quite correct. I cannot judge god by any hidden motives he might have had. I can only judge him by his actions. And in my judgment, killing people for no reason is bad. I'm not going to close my eyes to it just because He is the boss, and I have to suck up to him.

That the sins of the father are visited on their children.
How could they not be?
Your father was an atheist like mine.? Or maybe a hypocritical so-called Christian who turned you away from God.?

So watch out fathers what you teach your children.
Maybe God had to bring out the sword so that even worse evil would not continue on the earth? I don't know and I won't until I die.