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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Wed 30 Apr, 2003 09:09 pm
pfffft! sierra nevadas. that will not be carried in my hand. pilsner urquell, rebel, or some such!
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littlek
 
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Reply Wed 30 Apr, 2003 09:11 pm
I'll carry the Sierra Nevadas or the Harpoon IPAs or ....

Hey Slappy, have you tried the Concord IPA? It's pretty good.
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Wed 30 Apr, 2003 09:12 pm
Remember we are going there to kick ass, not to bring beers! we can have those later, when slappy lies flat on the ground!
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littlek
 
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Reply Wed 30 Apr, 2003 09:13 pm
hahahaha

btw, I was talking about going to the beer store, not to slappy's work.
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Wed 30 Apr, 2003 09:15 pm
i know, but i can live with one slavic beer being loose out there in the universe. now for slappy being out there loose, dunno. more scary.
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littlek
 
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Reply Wed 30 Apr, 2003 09:15 pm
good point
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Reply Wed 30 Apr, 2003 09:20 pm
First off, Pilsner SUCKS! I did a promotion at a bar one night for that, and I think I"d rather drink Bud out of a can.
Never tried Concord IPA, I don't think.
Isn't it scary knowing I'm out there?

I need to go back to doing beer promos...so much fun.
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Wed 30 Apr, 2003 09:25 pm
Pilsner Urquel? It is the original beer, it is where the beer comes from. Now for Bud, that is stolen from Czechs too, lost a giant lawsuit too, but the Czech budweiser actually tastes like a beer, not cold urine. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr, you should not have said pilsner sucks. no sir, i don't think so....
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littlek
 
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Reply Wed 30 Apr, 2003 09:32 pm
wait wait wait, pilsner urquel is the brewery with the longest history. It was most certainly NOT the first beer.

I think I would sit there and stare at a can of bud light and go sober, hang over and all, in the middle of a party, and with no other beer/wine/liquor options, without drinking it. Pilner urquel tastes like vomit to me.
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Wed 30 Apr, 2003 09:37 pm
Pilsner and bud light are light years apart. If you don't like pilsner-related beers, prolly you won't be able to tell, but trust me. can't be compared. it's like heaven and hell. i don't like dark beer and can't compare in that area, but vomit? nah.
Pilsner was not the first beer ever, but that does come from that region. Inspired by the Greek mead, I believe. I read the history some time ago, I am sure it is somewhere online.
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littlek
 
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Reply Wed 30 Apr, 2003 09:38 pm
google search!
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Wed 30 Apr, 2003 09:38 pm
too tired.
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littlek
 
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Reply Wed 30 Apr, 2003 09:39 pm
this is more along the lines of what I remember from Anthropology classes...... sumeria. Egypt, too, was making it before europe was, I believe.

Beer - "making bread was a convenient way to store the raw materials for making beer."
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littlek
 
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Reply Wed 30 Apr, 2003 09:43 pm
Oho! Man, we humans were reared on beer.

NOVEMBER, 1992--Researchers in the Museum Applied Science Center for Archaeology (MASCA) at The University Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology, University of Pennsylvania, analyzed an organic residue from inside a pottery vessel dated circa 3500-3100 B.C. from the site of Godin Tepe in the Zagros Mountains of western Iran. Their findings provide the earliest known chemical evidence of beer in the world. Archaeological chemist Dr. Patrick E. McGovern and organic chemist Dr. Rudolph H. Michel carried out a chemical Feigl spot test on a pale yellowish residue that filled grooves within an ancient jug; the tests were positive for oxalate ion. The Feigl spot test is a standard chemical technique, though previously unemployed for this purpose. Calcium oxalate (the calcium salt from the oxalate ion) is a major component of "beerstone" and settles out on the surfaces of fermentation and storage tanks of barley beer, as the researchers believe occurred with the ancient residue.
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Wed 30 Apr, 2003 09:45 pm
Czech beer ;-) :
http://archiv.radio.cz/beer/beer1.html

(btw, the nickname Good King Wenceslav is nonsense. It was Good King Franz, and that only because he never disputed anything and agreed to everything put in front of him.... never you mind, just couldn't let it stand uncorrected there...)
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Wed 30 Apr, 2003 09:46 pm
Right, but those first beers had no hop (sp?) in it? They were nothing like what we call beer today.
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littlek
 
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Reply Wed 30 Apr, 2003 09:47 pm
But, of course, Pilsner was first brewed in Pilsen

beer link
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Wed 30 Apr, 2003 09:49 pm
The hops was added in middle ages. (from history-of-beer.com)


Beer's Beginnings
Historians believe that the ancient Mesopotamians and Sumerians were brewing as early as 10,000 BC.

Although the product would have been somewhat different from today's bottled varieties, it would be recognizable.

The ancient Egyptians and Chinese brewed beer, as did pre-Columbian civilizations in the Americas, who used corn instead of barley.

In the middle ages, European monks were the guardians of literature and science, as well as the art of beer making. They refined the process to near perfection and institutionalized the use of hops as a flavoring and preservative. However, it wasn't until Louis Pasteur came along that a final, important development was made. Until that time, brewers had to depend on wild, airborne yeast for fermentation. By establishing that yeast is a living microorganism, Pasteur opened the gates for accurately controlling the conversion of sugar to alcohol.

While grapes grow well in warm climates, barley grows better in cooler climes. This is how the northern countries of Germany and England became famous for their beers. This production was taken very seriously, as it was in the New World, where beer was a major component of the Pilgrim's diet.
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littlek
 
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Reply Wed 30 Apr, 2003 09:50 pm
Good point about hops - looked up hopped beer:

Hopped Beer

Hops has been around for ever. Beer as fermented grains has been flavored with many things including rosemary and lavender and coriander and.... yum, getting thirsty.
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Wed 30 Apr, 2003 09:52 pm
going home. need beer.
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