How Do We Win in Iraq?

You need to go back and take a course on logic theory. You just proclaimed your support for Bush going to war to ensure that iraq did not have nukes that could be used on the US while saying it is acceptable that Bush not initiate protective measures to stop a nuke from being smuggled in by boat UNTIL AFTER that alleged mushroom cloud appears.

Brandon9000 wrote:

You're wrong. The potential consequences of Hussein with a stockpile of serious WMD outweigh almost any other consideration. The invasion was necessary by any rational standard.

There were inspectors on the ground looking for the WMD's and Bush ordered them out!.

This has been pointed out to you time and time again....

It is indeed a difficult thing to win a war that the troops main mission is "to stay alive long enough to go home" ... particularly when they are facing an enemy that has a true cause and no fear of death.

We will lose this war in Iraq because our cause is not just. It is certainly a sad sad truth.

There were inspectors on the ground looking for the WMD's and Bush ordered them out!.

This has been pointed out to you time and time again....

As it has also been pointed out that this had been going on for a dozen years without the desired result being obtained.

kelticwizard wrote:

There were inspectors on the ground looking for the WMD's and Bush ordered them out!.

This has been pointed out to you time and time again....

Brandon9000 wrote:

As it has also been pointed out that this had been going on for a dozen years without the desired result being obtained.

There had not been inspectors on the ground in several years. Clinton pulled them out because he felt they were being interfered with. Then he commenced bombing, to force Hussein to agree to unfettered inspections.

Under the threat of invasion, Hussein finally did agree to inspectors on the ground. The first round, the inspectors were interfered with. However, in the second round, the inspectors were NOT interfered with. They could go anyplace inthe country they pleased, at a moment's notice. They could interview anyone they wished, with no body else present. Moreover, Hans Blix made clear that the records of the destruction of past WMD's were in fact being uncovered, the Iraqis were indeed accounting for the past WMD's they had-then Bush halted the process, ordered the inspectors out and invaded.

The evidence Bush said he sougt-the evidence that Saddam had disposed of the WMD's-was in fact being collected at the very moment Bush ordered the inspectors out.

Therefore, Bush did not invade because he was worried that Saddam might have WMD's. Quite the opposite. Bush was clearly worried that the inspectors were beginning to find that there were no WMD's in Iraq, after Bush and his Administration had whipped the country into an invasion fever based on the WMD "threat".

kelticwizard wrote:

kelticwizard wrote:

There were inspectors on the ground looking for the WMD's and Bush ordered them out!.

This has been pointed out to you time and time again....

Brandon9000 wrote:

As it has also been pointed out that this had been going on for a dozen years without the desired result being obtained.

There had not been inspectors on the ground in several years. Clinton pulled them out because he felt they were being interfered with. Then he commenced bombing, to force Hussein to agree to unfettered inspections.

Under the threat of invasion, Hussein finally did agree to inspectors on the ground. The first round, the inspectors were interfered with. However, in the second round, the inspectors were NOT interfered with. They could go anyplace inthe country they pleased, at a moment's notice. They could interview anyone they wished, with no body else present. Moreover, Hans Blix made clear that the records of the destruction of past WMD's were in fact being uncovered, the Iraqis were indeed accounting for the past WMD's they had-then Bush halted the process, ordered the inspectors out and invaded.

The evidence Bush said he sougt-the evidence that Saddam had disposed of the WMD's-was in fact being collected at the very moment Bush ordered the inspectors out.

Therefore, Bush did not invade because he was worried that Saddam might have WMD's. Quite the opposite. Bush was clearly worried that the inspectors were beginning to find that there were no WMD's in Iraq, after Bush and his Administration had whipped the country into an invasion fever based on the WMD "threat".

I'd actually like to see whether or not Brandon is going to avoid answering this post. So far he has avoided it.

If you believe that reliable proof of WMD destruction was then being supplied, please cite a reference for it.

Although during the last month and a half of our inspections, the Iraqi side made considerable efforts to provide explanations, to begin inquiries and to undertake exploration and excavations, these efforts did not bring the answers needed before we withdrew. We did not have time to interview more than a handful of the large number of persons who were said by Iraq to have participated in the unilateral destruction of biological and chemical weapons in 1991.

Oh, wait, the source

DrewDad wrote:

Far more Americans have died from the results of drunk driving than from terrorism.

That's the past, but cannot be used as some kind of proof that someone can't smuggle a WMD in, as they become progressively easier to obtain.

Of all the claims U.S. intelligence made about Iraq's arsenal in the fall and winter of 2002, it was a handful of new charges that seemed the most significant: secret purchases of uranium from Africa, biological weapons being made in mobile laboratories, and pilotless planes that could disperse anthrax or sarin gas into the air above U.S. cities. By the time President Bush ordered U.S. troops to disarm Saddam Hussein of the deadly weapons he was allegedly trying to build, every piece of fresh evidence had been tested -- and disproved -- by U.N. inspectors, according to a report commissioned by the president and released Thursday.

The work of the inspectors -- who had extraordinary access during their three months in Iraq between November 2002 and March 2003 -- was routinely dismissed by the Bush administration and the intelligence community in the run-up to the war, according to the commission led by former senator Charles S. Robb (D-Va.) and retired appellate court judge Laurence H. Silberman.