<Kicky puts his six-guns back in their holster and walks away, smiling...>
we have just been privileged to witness an A2K "big Dick" contest.
And the winner is...Farmerman!
The real winner is the kooky Randi Rhodes.
Yeah, the big dick competition. I just don't like yellers yelling through the microphone at me. I do love passionate belief in what you think is good, but I have such a distaste for the right wing radio talk shows that I can't abide hearing it from the left. The right has passion as well--that doens't always make them admirable.
I do enjoy Al Franken's Oy yo oy routine. He is adorable and smart, but enough comedy routine after five minutes or so, then get to the really good stuff--the interviews.
I have a long time friend, a psychologist who firmly believes in passion as useful in argument. She's interesting, one of the world's quick lip wit people, oddly slow to get interested in things so that I'll find her all enthused about something others - or perhaps I - have by then gotten bored with (I say snottily, and by now I may be the slow one); self educating by reading a lot of serious tomes.
We disagree politically (I put that to her slow side) and about the passion counting in argument. I know it counts in life, I know it counts in beliefs, but it doesn't win my nod in argument - possibly the opposite.
I'm not all so good at dispassion myself, but I don't think passion has a role in reasoning sequence. It has a role in convincing, as a wave flowing over the confused.
Sorry if that post was out of left field, I arrived at the thread late, only read the last eight or so posts.
Left field or not, your freind the shrink sounds like and interesting sort. As to passion in argument, well, I'm with you on that, Osso - if one's opponent in an argument succumbs to passion, one generally wins that argument by foreit, as the opponent then typically engages in insult, invective, and logical fallacy, more and more energeticlly the longer and higher the passion is stoked..
That's my view, even if I agree with the passion. Took me a bit of time to get to this point though...
Diane wrote: I just don't like yellers yelling through the microphone at me. ... I have such a distaste for the right wing radio talk shows that I can't abide hearing it from the left.
exactly. hyping up the facts is unhelpful. especially when the facts speak for themselves. how can i take a hysteric like randi rhodes seriously when she behaves like rush limbaugh in drag ? (uuugh... that's an unattractive mental image.)
Those legs look familiar...Hillary?
JustWonders wrote:Karl Rove
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DontTreadOnMe wrote:Diane wrote: I just don't like yellers yelling through the microphone at me. ... I have such a distaste for the right wing radio talk shows that I can't abide hearing it from the left.
exactly. hyping up the facts is unhelpful. especially when the facts speak for themselves. how can i take a hysteric like randi rhodes seriously when she behaves like rush limbaugh in drag ? (uuugh... that's an unattractive mental image.)
Why can't you say she sounds like a female version of Rush Limbaugh? Hysterical? Men always say that about women who speak their mind. Two strikes in one post.
Emotion from a person of any sexual persuasion or any political view is useful sometimes, especially with crowds, but not all so much with anyone that stands back and thinks.
Using the word hysteria for women, long a ploy, or equivalent words for men just put adjectives to reactive behaviour.
It is all gas to me.
I've never been prone to hysterectomizing.
Chrissee wrote:DontTreadOnMe wrote:Diane wrote: I just don't like yellers yelling through the microphone at me. ... I have such a distaste for the right wing radio talk shows that I can't abide hearing it from the left.
exactly. hyping up the facts is unhelpful. especially when the facts speak for themselves. how can i take a hysteric like randi rhodes seriously when she behaves like rush limbaugh in drag ? (uuugh... that's an unattractive mental image.)
Why can't you say she sounds like a female version of Rush Limbaugh? Hysterical? Men always say that about women who speak their mind. Two strikes in one post.
Ooooh, now you're in trouble ...
And you best listen too, DTOM ... Chrissee has a mean left hook.
Talk radio is showbiz. It is not C-span. In Randi's case, she really means what she says, from what I understand she is the most popular host on the Quake here in San Francisco. But she is an acquired taste.
My favorite though is:
BTW The Quake is celebrating its FIRST birthday. Just an example of the challenges Air America faces.