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Why Do Higher Gas Prices Anger You?

 
 
Brand X
 
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Reply Wed 27 Sep, 2006 08:13 am
People insist on believing in urban myths and the like, it makes them feel better when they have something to bitch about..reality or not.

This fuel price downturn as an example.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Wed 27 Sep, 2006 08:13 am
Thomas wrote:
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
too many variables to bet. For one thing we may have a democrat in the white House who doesn't find these tactics necessary and doesn't treat the American people like sheep, even though it's the proven most effective approach.

Fair enough, no deal then -- though I'd be willing to change the date to September 27, 2008, when the president will still be Republican.



still too many variables... not trying to duck you.... but too many variables.... we may have two or three other wars going on and some new boogeymen to keep the voters in line by then.....
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Wed 27 Sep, 2006 08:13 am
Thomas wrote:
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
too many variables to bet. For one thing we may have a democrat in the white House who doesn't find these tactics necessary and doesn't treat the American people like sheep, even though it's the proven most effective approach.

Fair enough, no deal then -- though I'd be willing to change the date to September 27, 2008, when the president will still be Republican.



still too many variables... not trying to duck you.... but too many variables.... we may have two or three other wars going on and some new boogeymen to keep the voters in line by then.....
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Wed 27 Sep, 2006 08:17 am
Brand X wrote:
People insist on believing in urban myths and the like, it makes them feel better when they have something to bitch about..reality or not.

This fuel price downturn as an example.


andyou think there's a downturn in prices because??????
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Thomas
 
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Reply Wed 27 Sep, 2006 08:18 am
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
still too many variables... not trying to duck you.... but too many variables.... we may have two or three other wars going on and some new boogeymen to keep the voters in line by then.....

... all of which would drive oil prices up, not down, which would tend to make you win and make me lose. But don't worry, I'll stop razzing now. And sympathies for the double post. A2K is a bitch today;I had several of those myself.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 27 Sep, 2006 08:28 am
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
Brand X wrote:
People insist on believing in urban myths and the like, it makes them feel better when they have something to bitch about..reality or not.

This fuel price downturn as an example.


andyou think there's a downturn in prices because??????


The lack of a predictedly strong hurricane season, OPEC increasing production, end of the lebanon war, Iran willing to negotiate about enriching Uranium, decreased price per barrel of oil on the stock exchange.

Hard to believe Republicans can be responsible for all these.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 27 Sep, 2006 08:29 am
McGentrix wrote:
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
Brand X wrote:
People insist on believing in urban myths and the like, it makes them feel better when they have something to bitch about..reality or not.

This fuel price downturn as an example.


andyou think there's a downturn in prices because??????


The lack of a predictedly strong hurricane season, OPEC increasing production, end of the lebanon war, Iran willing to negotiate about enriching Uranium, decreased price per barrel of oil on the stock exchange.

Hard to believe Republicans can be responsible for all these.

Hard to believe Republicans can be responsible.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Wed 27 Sep, 2006 06:13 pm
dyslexia wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
Brand X wrote:
People insist on believing in urban myths and the like, it makes them feel better when they have something to bitch about..reality or not.

This fuel price downturn as an example.


andyou think there's a downturn in prices because??????


The lack of a predictedly strong hurricane season, OPEC increasing production, end of the lebanon war, Iran willing to negotiate about enriching Uranium, decreased price per barrel of oil on the stock exchange.

Hard to believe Republicans can be responsible for all these.

Hard to believe Republicans can be responsible.


Since the left seemed to blame Bush when the gas prices went up,why are they not giving him all the credit for prices going down?

If he was responsible for one,he must be responsible for the other.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Thu 28 Sep, 2006 05:12 am
mysteryman wrote:
dyslexia wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
Brand X wrote:
People insist on believing in urban myths and the like, it makes them feel better when they have something to bitch about..reality or not.

This fuel price downturn as an example.


andyou think there's a downturn in prices because??????


The lack of a predictedly strong hurricane season, OPEC increasing production, end of the lebanon war, Iran willing to negotiate about enriching Uranium, decreased price per barrel of oil on the stock exchange.

Hard to believe Republicans can be responsible for all these.

Hard to believe Republicans can be responsible.


Since the left seemed to blame Bush when the gas prices went up,why are they not giving him all the credit for prices going down?

If he was responsible for one,he must be responsible for the other.


quite right mysteryman... as the president who has big oils hand in his back like the sock puppet and oil man he is he is largely responsible and certainly compliant in the manipulation up or down of oil prices to suit his purposes and those of his inner circle. Big oil and bush have a symbiotic relationship. So what was your point?
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Thomas
 
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Reply Thu 28 Sep, 2006 05:47 am
Bear -- in your opinion, can oil prices move in any direction without proving that Bush conspires with Big Oil? Evidently "up" and "down" don't qualify.
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hamburger
 
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Reply Thu 28 Sep, 2006 12:58 pm
oil price fluctuations are not much different than the red cloth being waived at the bull - up , down , left , right ... and the bull (the consumer) is charging at it , not realizing that in the end he'll be killed and dragged out of the arena.

imo it's just a great way of keeping citizens' minds occupied and divert their attention from the important developments in the world .

so far , no major adjustments in lifestyle have taken place by the majority of consumers - but it gives them something to shout and b_tch about , and it won't do them a bit of good Laughing .

some researchers claim that if the gasprices weren't displayed as prominently as they are , there would be far less complaining .

the prices for many goods and services are changing frequently , but it does not seem to draw as much attention as the changes in gasprices .

to draw a bit of a parallel :
in germany salestaxes are included in price of goods advertised for sale ; example : a pair of shoes is advertised as EURO 100 , and that's what the buyer pays .
in canada the sales taxes are NOT included in advertised price ; so a pair of shoes advertised as $100 will cost the buyer about $114 (depending upon the province where the purchase is made - much less in alberta) .
i've heard people in germany complaining about high prices , but usually not about sales tax ;
in canada , consumers are almost constantly complaining about the sales tax because it's tacked onto the price (very confusing to shoppers from outside canada; "it says $100 , why do i have to pay $114 ? " .
so the canadian system is to poke the consumer in the eye with every purchase (just like the bull being poked Twisted Evil ) .

coming back to the gasprice : the consumer is being poked in the eye everytime the gasprice is shown in REALLY BIG NUMBERS .

(i've notices on a2k that some members are being accused of "poking in the eye" by constant CAPITALIZING Twisted Evil .)
hbg
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hamburger
 
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Reply Thu 28 Sep, 2006 01:04 pm
A POKE IN THE EYE :

...OIL PRICES RISING ... ABOVE $63 !!! ...
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Brand X
 
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Reply Thu 28 Sep, 2006 01:13 pm
Yup, that's what the oil price does...it goes up...it goes down....it's a market thing.

BTW, I think it's stupid to market it with the giant price signs too, but that started at the dawn of the oil business pretty much.
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hamburger
 
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Reply Thu 28 Sep, 2006 01:13 pm
there must be money in canadian oilsands exploration (and gas - for which the consumer pays dearly Shocked )
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CALGARY -- Norway's Statoil ASA is on the hunt for an oil sands project, saying it is aiming to strike a deal worth more than a billion dollars to claim a stake in Alberta's bitumen deposits.

The state-owned company -- shrugging off concerns about inflationary pressures in the sector -- said its strategy centres on building an integrated project, complete with an upgrader. Executing that strategy would eventually cost upward of $10-billion, but Statoil is looking to acquire both a project and at least one partner.

In an interview with The Globe and Mail, the head of Statoil's non-conventional oil unit said he is eager to strike a deal. "We see no reason for hanging around on the street corner," said Peder Sortland, a senior vice-president at Statoil.



...ANOTHER GIANT ENTERS CANADIAN OILSANDS EXPLORATION...
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Thu 28 Sep, 2006 01:16 pm
Thomas wrote:
Bear -- in your opinion, can oil prices move in any direction without proving that Bush conspires with Big Oil? Evidently "up" and "down" don't qualify.


sure.... when bush is a private citizen and he is no longer using oil prices to manipulate his political agenda...l
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Brand X
 
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Reply Thu 28 Sep, 2006 01:20 pm
Yeah, 174 billion barrels of oilsands has gotten a lot of attention now that there are technologies to extract it with decent economics.

The barrel price needs to be above $50 to make it profitable though.

Fort McMurray is growing by leaps and bounds due to oilsands workers..a story not unlike Deadwood.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 28 Sep, 2006 01:21 pm
Brand X wrote:
Yeah, 174 billion barrels of oilsands has gotten a lot of attention now that there are technologies to extract it with decent economics.

The barrel price needs to be above $50 to make it profitable though.

Fort McMurray is growing by leaps and bounds due to oilsands workers..a story not unlike Deadwood.


Is that worth getting on DVD? I'm on Netflix, so price isn't the issue, just time.

Cheers
Cycloptichorn
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Brand X
 
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Reply Thu 28 Sep, 2006 01:24 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Brand X wrote:
Yeah, 174 billion barrels of oilsands has gotten a lot of attention now that there are technologies to extract it with decent economics.

The barrel price needs to be above $50 to make it profitable though.

Fort McMurray is growing by leaps and bounds due to oilsands workers..a story not unlike Deadwood.


Is that worth getting on DVD? I'm on Netflix, so price isn't the issue, just time.

Cheers
Cycloptichorn


Yes, it's worth a look. Very well written and acted.
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hamburger
 
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Reply Thu 28 Sep, 2006 01:31 pm
article from the 'washington post' claims that oilsands will be profitable below $50 a barrel .
while i have not heard the $20 a barrel price quoted before , various industry spokespeople have talked about profitability in the $30 range - well below the old $50 price - and production costs seem to be falling .
hbg


from the 'washington post' (2005) :
Until a few years ago, such projects -- called "oil sands" or "tar sands" -- sputtered at the fringes of the oil industry. But since technological breakthroughs brought down costs and oil prices have soared, companies have been investing heavily here. Oil-sands production is now profitable when a barrel of oil sells in the low $20s, analysts said -- far below the recent $50 range.




...OIL SANDS PROFITABLE ? ...
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hamburger
 
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Reply Thu 28 Sep, 2006 01:46 pm
this is part of a rather long but quite interesting (and detailed) report recently published by 'bloomberg news' .
not being in the business of oil price forecasting , i'm in no position to comment on the article , except to say that bloomberg has made a name in the business world as a reliable 'business forecaster ' .
if you have the time , read it ... if you don't read it , the gas price will still rise and fall as before Laughing Shocked .
hbg


...WHAT BLOOMBERG SAYS...
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